Sherman Fireflie's true top speed?

[Tyrannis]

Hey guys, i was in a custom GV arena, i upped a sherman firefly but the highest top speed i could get out of it on flat terrain was 20mph.

From what ive found from a little research, the firefly could reach at least 25 mph.(40km/h)


http://www.enotes.com/topic/Sherman_Firefly
http://www.onwar.com/tanks/uk/data/firefly.htm


I tested it offline on flat terrain and i still could only manage 20mph. even when holding the W button down.

[SmokinLoon]

HTC probably modeled a slower speed to simulate the British stopping for tea.  Otherwise, I too question it.   

[Tank-Ace]

no, Dale fixed it to represent Monty's screw-up at falaise. Since monty didn't move fast enough, our firefly won't move fast enough  .

[B-17]

Such tasteful humour

[Yarbles]

no, Dale fixed it to represent Monty's screw-up at falaise. Since monty didn't move fast enough, our firefly won't move fast enough  .

I think on that basis the regular Sherman should take at least 2 years to get started  .

[Butcher]

Hey guys, i was in a custom GV arena, i upped a sherman firefly but the highest top speed i could get out of it on flat terrain was 20mph.

From what ive found from a little research, the firefly could reach at least 25 mph.(40km/h)


http://www.enotes.com/topic/Sherman_Firefly
http://www.onwar.com/tanks/uk/data/firefly.htm


I tested it offline on flat terrain and i still could only manage 20mph. even when holding the W button down.

Have you done any research? neither those are credible sources, official document from the British Army specifications of the FireFly.
Our ingame Firefly is correct. By the way, you can't really research online because some webpages simply cut and paste from others without actually doing research themselves, I had to pour through 60 documents and 3 books to gather the average speed should of been 20-22mph. I haven't even started on German documents because most of it is in german and translation is a pain.

[Tank-Ace]

for whatever reason, a lot of the british tanks were slower than their contemporaries. But I don't know why the firefly would be. The 17lber isn't THAT much heavier than an M3 75mm. I don't see how it could drop the speed by 5-7mph.

[SDGhalo]

well i wasnt just the gun the turret was also redsigned for the gun also didnt they double the with of the track couldnt that be just wondering

[321BAR]

well i wasnt just the gun the turret was also redsigned for the gun also didnt they double the with of the track couldnt that be just wondering

the width of the track was normal for the Firefly. youre thinking of special sherman designs such as the Easy8 etc where there was more armor or wider tracks etc.

[Tank-Ace]

turret is unchanged isn't it? I was under the impression they modified the recoil system of the gun, to make use of the Sherman's wide turret.

[321BAR]

turret is unchanged isn't it? I was under the impression they modified the recoil system of the gun, to make use of the Sherman's wide turret.

look at a sherman 76mm turret and the firefly turret. theyre different

[Tank-Ace]

No, M4(76) doesn't use the origional sherman turret. They use an enlarged one.

Firefly turret and M4(75) turret should be the same. Infact, they're the same tank near enough. Just superficial changes, a different engine, and a new gun.

[SmokinLoon]

Maybe the British put an RPM limiter on their engines to help with the longevity of the engines and transmissions??? 

[SDGhalo]

well there were some changes

. a second hatch was put in for the loader
. the hull gunner was elimated for more ammo storage which gave it more weight
. the mantle was 13 mm thicker then the 75mm
. and the added a large armourd bustle bin to fit the radios in the back of the turret

so maybe thats why she's a little slower

plus if you look at this photo on this link of the 75mm and the firefly you will see the difference.

http://www.juniorgeneral.org/JClick.php?UID=2504


 

[tf15pin]

I wouldn't think that adding some weight to a tank would lower its top speed too much but would affect its acceleration. I think a big change in speed would come from a change in transmission or an engine that operates at lower RPM.