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Offline mechanic

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Re: I HATE PUFFY FLAK COADING and refuse to fly in areas that have it
« Reply #15 on: August 08, 2011, 12:18:42 PM »
puffy ack is supposed to be annoying....duh

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Re: I HATE PUFFY FLAK COADING and refuse to fly in areas that have it
« Reply #16 on: August 08, 2011, 12:24:07 PM »
I thought I read somewhere that without the proxy fuses it took something like 400 rounds to get a hit.  With the proxy fuses it came down to 40?  In the game, 1 round from 5K me things should not be happening.
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Re: I HATE PUFFY FLAK COADING and refuse to fly in areas that have it
« Reply #17 on: August 08, 2011, 12:35:47 PM »
Let me provide an example of why the current "puffy ack" coding is, er, unrealistic....


I'm flying at 8,000 feet, the enemy fleet is just visible at the limits of vision. Everything is sunk, except a single destroyer. Yet, the volume of puffy ack is unabated... Moreover, there are at least 6 aircraft closer to the destroyer than I am. A Fletcher class destroyer has five 5" guns. So, explain why I can count dozens of ack puffs near me. Who is shooting? Clearly, something other than that lone destroyer. Where does this amazing volume of fire come from, and why is it present?
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Re: I HATE PUFFY FLAK COADING and refuse to fly in areas that have it
« Reply #18 on: August 08, 2011, 12:42:32 PM »
turn off automagic puffy ack and just make the guns mannable. might double or triple the # of manned positions, I think, but at least you'll get killed by another person and not the frickin' computer.
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Re: I HATE PUFFY FLAK COADING and refuse to fly in areas that have it
« Reply #19 on: August 08, 2011, 01:03:20 PM »
I think the bigger problem is how close the CV can be brought to the coast. It makes defending almost impossible sometimes.
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Re: I HATE PUFFY FLAK COADING and refuse to fly in areas that have it
« Reply #20 on: August 08, 2011, 01:20:39 PM »
Hmm...  The ack deters people from veing around it...   Working as intended? ;)

I agree it would be an excellent target for improvementm. +1

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Re: I HATE PUFFY FLAK COADING and refuse to fly in areas that have it
« Reply #21 on: August 08, 2011, 01:37:28 PM »
Three response deep hijack..nice. 

I get puffy ack, but the threat detection piece (range) is a bit odd.  I have been hit waaaayyy out in a 262, varying my alt 1k at a time.  No so sure if the computer back then could anticipate a flight path the way the current system does.  That said, the ack SHOULD be lethal enough to kill a flight of approaching bombers, or at least reduce the number by one.  +1 do a re-look, make it more lethal closer would be my 2 cents.  CV fights promote fighting. 

Question for the uber knowledge section.... does the FLAK capability of a carrier group diminish as the group is destroyed?     
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Re: I HATE PUFFY FLAK COADING and refuse to fly in areas that have it
« Reply #22 on: August 08, 2011, 01:39:36 PM »
I think the bigger problem is how close the CV can be brought to the coast. It makes defending almost impossible sometimes.

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Re: I HATE PUFFY FLAK COADING and refuse to fly in areas that have it
« Reply #23 on: August 08, 2011, 02:10:35 PM »
Flak seems to be an individual front end situation. What I mean is, I can be flying with a squaddy in a sector both 5 miles from the CV. I see puffy ack shooting at me but nothing around him. He sees puffy ack around him but nothing by me. Correct me if I am wrong there.
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Re: I HATE PUFFY FLAK COADING and refuse to fly in areas that have it
« Reply #24 on: August 08, 2011, 02:42:59 PM »
puffy ack should be down when the cruiser is destroyed. or simply erased from the game :airplane:
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Re: I HATE PUFFY FLAK COADING and refuse to fly in areas that have it
« Reply #25 on: August 08, 2011, 03:11:51 PM »
Do bomber boxes always get through to the CV? How often do you bomber pilots loose your whole box at alt to auto only ack before you get your bombs off? CV's get sunk like clock work from what I can see. How often is it puffy ack killing our fighters during furballs opposed to the manned 5inchers?

Most often if I don't get too close to the ships the auto puffy dosen't kill me. It's the player gunners in the manned 5". Yes it's annoying to get auto puffy ack at 25k yards away out of sight or 3k high closer to the ships while furballing. I think I've only been auto killed that way half a dozen times over the years. Most everytime the puffy ack kills me a name is associated with the kill.

How often do we die by manned versus auto ack?

Bringing a CV inside of 20,000 yards to shore as a fighter supressant seems a bit gamey. But, isn't that a concession to being able to get LVT's with troops feet dry inside of 10-15 minutes because of their slow speeds and vulnerability? Whats the maximum distance from shore before you can launch LVT's? Is that controlling why CV's can be parked almost on the beach as a giant ack barge?

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Re: I HATE PUFFY FLAK COADING and refuse to fly in areas that have it
« Reply #26 on: August 08, 2011, 03:51:27 PM »
I must be weird....I love flying into puffy ack (auto-ack anyways). It gives me that realistic feel. Like I'm flying back in time (especially in my B17's).

Even when I up a fighter I do just fine. I think these girls are just upset over manned ack. ;)
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Re: I HATE PUFFY FLAK COADING and refuse to fly in areas that have it
« Reply #27 on: August 08, 2011, 05:14:43 PM »
Hmm...  The ack deters people from veing around it...   Working as intended? ;)

I agree it would be an excellent target for improvementm. +1

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Re: I HATE PUFFY FLAK COADING and refuse to fly in areas that have it
« Reply #28 on: August 08, 2011, 05:35:12 PM »
Citabria..talk to HTC. Posting it is just whining.

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Re: I HATE PUFFY FLAK COADING and refuse to fly in areas that have it
« Reply #29 on: August 08, 2011, 05:35:13 PM »
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