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Re: London Violence
« Reply #30 on: August 09, 2011, 12:21:59 AM »
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Agreed, coming to a theater near you. I hope not but riots are slowly showing up across Europe. Tensions are high. The combined GDP of the world is around $60 trillion yet the combined debts of the world is $160 trillion. Cannot be paid, and this does not include pensions, medicare, etc. About every 50-70 years there is a debt reset. Bretton Woods in '44 was the last wholesale change.

I am pretty concerned but...

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Re: London Violence
« Reply #31 on: August 09, 2011, 03:52:27 AM »
It's spreading round the whole country, it's pretty insane how far they have taken things now. I'm glad I have lots of weapons. If they start rioting in my town I will be patroling the yard with my compound bow and a broadsword and I'm not even joking. I agree with Grizz, I think they should be shot.
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Re: London Violence
« Reply #32 on: August 09, 2011, 03:54:31 AM »
France is resisting, UK is resiting, so tell me my fellow American WHY ARE WE NOT?

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Re: London Violence
« Reply #33 on: August 09, 2011, 04:01:35 AM »
Must not get to Detroit or other neighboring city's much.  It kills me that we have troops ordered to all
these other country's dictating (or keep the peace)  how things should go, when we should be watching our own back yard.

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Re: London Violence
« Reply #34 on: August 09, 2011, 04:20:38 AM »
Pull down public housing and take away welfare and i bet they would have more to do like get a job! less rioting then.
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Re: London Violence
« Reply #35 on: August 09, 2011, 05:50:34 AM »
The world gets more and more crazy as the planets falls into alignment... Just saying.  :noid
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Re: London Violence
« Reply #36 on: August 09, 2011, 05:53:45 AM »
this has nothing to do with the shooting, or politics, or race, or budget cuts, or the economy. its just packs of feral kids. dont believe all the "its just a few bad apples" stuff either, this complete disregard for the law and society, and lack of respect for others is endemic.

should have deployed water cannon and rubber bullets starting Sunday evening. if this was happening in Belfast it would have been stomped on in about an hour.
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Re: London Violence
« Reply #37 on: August 09, 2011, 06:20:05 AM »
this has nothing to do with the shooting, or politics, or race, or budget cuts, or the economy. its just packs of feral kids. dont believe all the "its just a few bad apples" stuff either, this complete disregard for the law and society, and lack of respect for others is endemic.

should have deployed water cannon and rubber bullets starting Sunday evening. if this was happening in Belfast it would have been stomped on in about an hour.

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Re: London Violence
« Reply #38 on: August 09, 2011, 06:34:11 AM »
Well it all kicked off a few days ago after a protest went sour over the police shooting of some guy. Dunno why there was a protest because the guy shot a policeman before he was killed. Since then it's rapidly escalated and there is violence and looting all over London. It is now NOTHING to do with that original protest, it's just kids off the council estates out to destroy things and loot, purely criminal behaviour. The police just can't cope with the sheer number...

For the sake of most of the Americans, perhaps you'd like to define what a "council esatate" is..? No agenda intended, I just doubt many of 'em know it.
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Re: London Violence
« Reply #39 on: August 09, 2011, 06:35:56 AM »
And my teacher was stunned today when I said humanity makes me sad. This is just another reason.

I guess I don't understand your impulse to make this into a general statement about humanity. It's kind of like defining a vehicle by a failure mode.
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Re: London Violence
« Reply #40 on: August 09, 2011, 06:37:21 AM »
For the sake of most of the Americans, perhaps you'd like to define what a "council esatate" is..? No agenda intended, I just doubt many of 'em know it.

council estate = projects iirc.
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Re: London Violence
« Reply #41 on: August 09, 2011, 06:40:11 AM »
The rioters are criminals taking advantage of the situation.

yep pretty much

but just to stir the pot...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/aug/07/police-attack-london-burns

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The fatal shooting of Mark Duggan, which sparked the Tottenham riots took a dramatic twist with the revelation that there may not have been any exchange of fire during his arrest.

Initial reports from the Independent police complaints commission were that during an apparent exchange of fire police officers from C019 fired two shots which killed Duggan. The suggestion was that officers could have come under fire from the minicab carrying Duggan on Thursday night.

Much of this assumption came from the fact that a bullet had lodged in a police radio worn by an officer at the scene – raising speculation he might have been fired at from the vehicle. A non police issue handgun was also recovered at the scene where Duggan was shot dead in Ferry Road.

But the Guardian understands that initial ballistics tests on the bullet lodged in the officer's radio show that it was a police issued bullet – and had not therefore been fired by Duggan or anyone else in the area.

The revelation comes as one community leader suggested that the handgun recovered was found in a sock and therefore not ready for use.

It is likely to fuel anger on the streets of Tottenham and elsewhere in London as it provides evidence that officers were not under attack at the time they opened fire on Duggan.

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Re: London Violence
« Reply #42 on: August 09, 2011, 06:40:58 AM »
It's spreading round the whole country, it's pretty insane how far they have taken things now. I'm glad I have lots of weapons. If they start rioting in my town I will be patroling the yard with my compound bow and a broadsword and I'm not even joking. I agree with Grizz, I think they should be shot.

I'll second that. I'm glad to see you're managing despite the "legislative" hurdles there. I've got a nice L1A1 I'd lend you, since many in your country are familiar, but sadly, it'd never make it across the border. Always my fave, that black plastic British adaptation of the big Belgian...
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Re: London Violence
« Reply #43 on: August 09, 2011, 07:42:01 AM »
council estate = projects iirc.


There isnt really an american term for it. It is essentially a large area of free housing provided by the government for the poorest people. Unfortunately many become hotbeds of crime. They are not neighbourhoods of their own like american projects. Sometimes you will find a really nasty estate just round the corner from a very nice shopping high street.

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Re: London Violence
« Reply #44 on: August 09, 2011, 07:45:28 AM »
:headscratch:

Agreed, coming to a theater near you. I hope not but riots are slowly showing up across Europe. Tensions are high. The combined GDP of the world is around $60 trillion yet the combined debts of the world is $160 trillion. Cannot be paid, and this does not include pensions, medicare, etc. About every 50-70 years there is a debt reset. Bretton Woods in '44 was the last wholesale change.

I am pretty concerned but...

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 i'm not sure if i should go here or not.......ALL of this rioting cannot possibly be over one person....i really wonder if it could have something to do with people losing their free stuff, considering the current situations........
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