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The Grizz-Venn System
« on: August 12, 2011, 10:25:11 AM »
The Grizz Venn System Is a relatively old technology applied recently to determine an aircrafts easy-mode classification.  As seen in the thread Spit 16 perkd?, that still persists, there have been some AH enthusiasts  that question the systems ability to properly determine an EZ mode classification.

The first bird called into question is the Brewster.  The Grizz-Venn System has rated the Brewster above the Mendoza line thus placing it in NON-EZ mode area.  Some have suggested that there may be less than arms length transactions occurring between Wmaker and Grizz to purposefully protect the Brewsters classification.  Those relationships could be Grizz is dating Wmakers sister, Wmaker is dating Grizzs sister, Wmaker is Grizz, Grizz is Wmaker, Grizz is Wmakers father, Wmaker is Grizzs father and finally, and the least likely, Grizz and Wmaker live together in Finland, make snow snow shoes in their spare time while creating aimbot software that is sold on the black market for euros that are then converted to Yen, sold at premium when converted to the British pound and then finally used to buy US Treasury bills at a discount (see US Securities and Exchange Commission vs. Mr Grizz and Mr Wmaker).

The question remains.....IN YOUR OPINION....IS THE BREWSTER AN EZ MODE AIRCRAFT?

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Re: The Grizz-Venn System
« Reply #1 on: August 12, 2011, 10:34:13 AM »
It can be difficult to fight a Brewster that has some alt on you; they dive well and have good control at higher speeds. However, if you can make them bleed energy they have trouble getting back up to speed.

If I see a Brew diving on me, I allow him to overshoot while keeping my G load low. After a short scissor, I can  extend to 1.5k, go vertical, and watch him stall beneath me.

I think the biggest complaint is from people that attempt to maneuver with the Brewsters. You need to read their E state and extend out at just the right moment; if you do it too late, they will have the angles, and too early and the Brew will have the energy to get a shot.

edit: in regards to easy mode, I have to say they are very forgiving, pack a good punch, and can turn fight with the best of them.
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Re: The Grizz-Venn System
« Reply #2 on: August 12, 2011, 10:34:33 AM »
Please remember to state your rational...thank you for participating in this ghettolicious project.

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you had me at "ghettolicious"   :aok


i dont really consider most brewsters much of a threat by themselves, i treat them like hurricanes and zeros.   i'd agree that the brew is correctly situated in the "turny" catagory, but like a few others given a dedicated pilot it may drift into the EZ mode zone for a moment or so.  
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Re: The Grizz-Venn System
« Reply #3 on: August 12, 2011, 10:36:32 AM »
 :rofl Changeup.  Thank you for paying it forward.  I have slaved in that thread the last two days to help Soulyss get through boring days at work.  I hope this thread propels us into the weekend.  :banana:

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Re: The Grizz-Venn System
« Reply #4 on: August 12, 2011, 10:37:25 AM »
I'd say brewster is more EZ than the Zeke personally due to it's similar characteristics, and ability to sponge damage that the zeke doesn't have.
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Re: The Grizz-Venn System
« Reply #5 on: August 12, 2011, 10:38:08 AM »
I'd say brewster is more EZ than the Zeke personally due to it's similar characteristics, and ability to sponge damage that the zeke doesn't have.

The zeke is the best turner in the game though and will thrash the brewster in a turn fight.

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Re: The Grizz-Venn System
« Reply #6 on: August 12, 2011, 10:40:24 AM »
:rofl Changeup.  Thank you for paying it forward.  I have slaved in that thread the last two days to help Soulyss get through boring days at work.  I hope this thread propels us into the weekend.  :banana:

It is my pleasure...it is my sincere hope that your body of dedicated work on the Grizz-Venn classification system never be called into question, regardless of how you handle Wmakers sister or your currency-trading accounts held offshore.    :salute
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Re: The Grizz-Venn System
« Reply #7 on: August 12, 2011, 10:41:41 AM »
The zeke is the best turner in the game though and will thrash the brewster in a turn fight.

But we're not talking about a world of Zekes versus Brewsters.  Both planes require altitude to create their art.  Without proper setup, neither is a credible threat to anything else.  All I know for sure is, a Zeke with alt is somewhat of a threat if you're not careful.  A Brew with alt on you is always a threat unless you've got a ton of smash.  That plus the aforementioned damage sponging capabilities make it clearly EZMode.

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Re: The Grizz-Venn System
« Reply #8 on: August 12, 2011, 10:42:22 AM »
The zeke is the best turner in the game though and will thrash the brewster in a turn fight.
Sir, that statement was proved conclusively to be incorrect by the testing JUGgler performed on or about 12 Jan 2011.  The thread is out there.
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Re: The Grizz-Venn System
« Reply #9 on: August 12, 2011, 10:46:08 AM »
 :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl

in my humble opinion.. no plane in aces is easy to fly...this i know for certain... i'm currently staying in a back packers, so i am sometimes surrounded by people who come visit this country...they have seen me play which they think is damn easy for them to handle... so since i am a nice guy... i usually relinquish my controller to those interested and tell them to give it a go.... none of them can fly straight...let alone shoot something down... even with me behind guiding them... which of cos changes their perception of this cartoon game i play..

so with all that said... i think any plane which can turn the tightest on a st8 and level flight would be an easier plane for newbies, as they would be less likely to get shot down in a dogfight, as compared to using a 190D or any 109 variants...

so to say a brewster is an easy fighter, is not really a fair comment... if you said the brewster was a an easier fighter to turn fight...i would almost certainly immediately agree....as would be the a6m.

well how i see it is... it depends on the pilot that makes a plane good... not the other way around... take adolf galland for instance... he's an ace in the 109, but he hates the 109 and what it cannot do compared to the allied planes...thats just my thoughts...
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Re: The Grizz-Venn System
« Reply #10 on: August 12, 2011, 10:47:38 AM »


you had me at "ghettolicious"   :aok


i dont really consider most brewsters much of a threat by themselves, i treat them like hurricanes and zeros.   i'd agree that the brew is correctly situated in the "turny" catagory, but like a few others given a dedicated pilot it may drift into the EZ mode zone for a moment or so.  

WADR, the question was regarding the Brewsterz Classification....EZ mode or not and why?  Every plane is EZ for moments...Remember, do not take into account the pending litigation against Mr Grizz and Mr Wmaker...that fact is not relevent tomthis case and cannot be used as a factor in making your determination.
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Re: The Grizz-Venn System
« Reply #11 on: August 12, 2011, 10:48:06 AM »
Sorry ChangeUp, I hate to break this to you but I'm about as straight as they come. I'm sure you'll find that special someone someday...but please, get off my ankle.
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Re: The Grizz-Venn System
« Reply #12 on: August 12, 2011, 10:53:39 AM »
Sorry ChangeUp, I hate to break this to you but I'm about as straight as they come. I'm sure you'll find that special someone someday...but please, get off my ankle.

i understand defense mechanisms, but please!  on topic!  :rofl


uber brewster pilots not included in this determination, i'd have to say that the brew, pesky as they may be, is not an EZ mode ride, per say
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Re: The Grizz-Venn System
« Reply #13 on: August 12, 2011, 10:55:39 AM »
i understand defense mechanisms, but please!  on topic!  :rofl

Not a defence mechanism, just stating a fact. It is ok to hit on someone regardless of the gender, but no means no for both.
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Re: The Grizz-Venn System
« Reply #14 on: August 12, 2011, 10:59:13 AM »
Not a defence mechanism, just stating a fact. It is ok to hit on someone regardless of the gender, but no means no for both.

jokes man, mere jokes  :aok

you fly a very mean brew, maybe the meanest in all of toon airplanes land.   if that qualifies as an ankle hump, don't worry.   i just stopped in for a quickie  :uhoh
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