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All good points, I believe.  Especially those pertaining to the Ki61, in my opinion.

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[PFactorDave]

DAVE!!!!!!!!!!!!  You forgot to vote!!  please...thank you

My apologies.

To be honest, I have had next to zero experience flying the Brewster.  But from a very small amount of experience in fighting against the Brewster, I would vote that the plane is not EZ mode due to lack of speed.  A pilot can pretty much disengage from a Brewster at will, unless the Brewster was allowed a large E advantage in the beginning.  And conversely, the Brewster cannot disengage from a fight unless the opponent allows it.

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My apologies.

To be honest, I have had next to zero experience flying the Brewster.  But from a very small amount of experience in fighting against the Brewster, I would vote that the plane is not EZ mode due to lack of speed.  A pilot can pretty much disengage from a Brewster at will, unless the Brewster was allowed a large E advantage in the beginning.  And conversely, the Brewster cannot disengage from a fight unless the opponent allows it.

Ok...but if you or it engages, then what?

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My apologies.

To be honest, I have had next to zero experience flying the Brewster.  But from a very small amount of experience in fighting against the Brewster, I would vote that the plane is not EZ mode due to lack of speed.  A pilot can pretty much disengage from a Brewster at will, unless the Brewster was allowed a large E advantage in the beginning.  And conversely, the Brewster cannot disengage from a fight unless the opponent allows it.

I don't think not being able to disengage plays too big of a part in whether a plane is easy mode or not.....that's just one factor and not a major one at that..its quite easy to dodge a BnZer attacks...and to kill them from an inferior position in a plane that "cant get away"  I have over 7000 kills in A hurri2C...I know all about flying a plane that cant get away

to find out if a plane is easy mode, just look at all the stats, if it does most things good its easy mode....IE spit 16..hell all spits minus the 14.....hurri2c...Brew......ki 84....109K4...(except the K4
s guns push it out of easy mode)  it is very easy to "fly" extremely hard to "fight" and kill in....whereas the spits are easy to fly and easy to kill in, same with Hurri....


like someone else said though you need to have some kind of understanding of ACM to be able to fight period...a buddy wanted to try AH, I let him up offline   I told him when he could fly through the hanger inverted I would let him try online......he couldnt even get the plane to fly in a straight line and crashed every time

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I don't think not being able to disengage plays too big of a part in whether a plane is easy mode or not.....that's just one factor and not a major one at that..its quite easy to dodge a BnZer attacks...and to kill them from an inferior position in a plane that "cant get away"  I have over 7000 kills in A hurri2C...I know all about flying a plane that cant get away

to find out if a plane is easy mode, just look at all the stats, if it does most things good its easy mode....IE spit 16..hell all spits minus the 14.....hurri2c...Brew......ki 84....109K4...(except the K4
s guns push it out of easy mode)  it is very easy to "fly" extremely hard to "fight" and kill in....whereas the spits are easy to fly and easy to kill in, same with Hurri....


like someone else said though you need to have some kind of understanding of ACM to be able to fight period...a buddy wanted to try AH, I let him up offline   I told him when he could fly through the hanger inverted I would let him try online......he couldnt even get the plane to fly in a straight line and crashed every time

Stats don't necessarily tell the whole story.  In a furball, no matter what I see, if there's a Brew there I kill him first and based on what I hear on 200 every night, so does everyone else.  That makes for poopy stats...

[Karnak]

Stats don't necessarily tell the whole story.  In a furball, no matter what I see, if there's a Brew there I kill him first and based on what I hear on 200 every night, so does everyone else.  That makes for poopy stats...

I generally go for the biggest threat, which due to how and what I fly, is rarely a B-239.  On the deck, my plane of choice is ~76mph faster than the B-239.

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Stats don't necessarily tell the whole story.  In a furball, no matter what I see, if there's a Brew there I kill him first and based on what I hear on 200 every night, so does everyone else.  That makes for poopy stats...

I am not talking stats as K/D  and what not, I am referring to the stats of the plane...climb rate....turn rate....ECT ECT

honestly I do not care what plane is there, like Karnak said, I go for the biggest threat to me.....

[Oldman731]

All good points, I believe.  Especially those pertaining to the Ki61, in my opinion.

Agreed (can it be I agree with Karnak?), except for this:  "P-38J and P-38L are significantly easier than either the Bf110G-2."  I would rate them approximately equal in difficulty.

This is fun, good work Grizz.

- oldman

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I generally go for the biggest threat, which due to how and what I fly, is rarely a B-239.  On the deck, my plane of choice is ~76mph faster than the B-239.

Mine isnt

[Karnak]

Mine isnt

What is your plane of choice, if I may ask?

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I am not talking stats as K/D  and what not, I am referring to the stats of the plane...climb rate....turn rate....ECT ECT

honestly I do not care what plane is there, like Karnak said, I go for the biggest threat to me.....

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I've been a good student in the KI and if the Brew is co alt or E, deck or altitude, it's a threa to you especially in a dive.

[grizz441]

What is your plane of choice, if I may ask?

Spit9.

[Sonicblu]

Ez mode compared to what?    

Brew compared to zero no.
Brew compared to hurri no.
Brew compared to p51 heck no.
Only an idiot at the controls, that fights the brews fight, makes it ez mode.  If a guy wants to turn fight a 51 against it it's not the brew that makes it ez it's the poor decisions of the 51 pilot.
It doesn't matter what plane you put a noob in against a better pilot brew vs spit. He is going to die.

The better pilot will see the weakness of the aircraft a pilot and act accordingly. ( weakness vs other plane )
A plane has no inherent weakness compared to itself, only to an other plane.

One of my favorite things to do ( in flew spit 9 a lot ) vs a brew is chop throttle turn inside brew first time and kill it.  If I couldn't get guns I dive away a come back with e and use e and climb to my advantage once they stall out under you it's is just target practice.


Anyway < votes no on ez mode.

I like to take a hurri 1 up to turn fight a brew.

[Karnak]

Spit9.

Spit IX is a mere 40mph faster than the B239 on the deck.  Same as my plane on MIL power.


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It will be fun to see people's reactions to the Ki-43 when it is added.  Only two 12.7mm guns, but turns better than the B239 and has fowler flaps like the Ki-84.  It will also be faster and better climbing than the Brewster, particularly if we get the Ki-43-III.

[grizz441]

Spit IX is a mere 40mph faster than the B239 on the deck.  Same as my plane on MIL power.


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It will be fun to see people's reactions to the Ki-43 when it is added.  Only two 12.7mm guns, but turns better than the B239 and has fowler flaps like the Ki-84.  It will also be faster and better climbing than the Brewster, particularly if we get the Ki-43-III.

A "mere" 40 mph?  That's a large speed discrepancy on the deck.