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Offline DeadStik

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Re: "You have landed successfully."
« Reply #105 on: August 18, 2011, 12:43:28 AM »
nobody is going to quit because you get less points for landing wheels up.  and getting more points for landing wheels down doesnt enhance anybody's experience.

It enhances it for me and for the others in favor.

because it is stupid to get points for doing nothing

False. It isn't nothing. Crashing in on the belly is more "nothing" than a proper landing. It's not a fixed bonus. It's proportionate to your normal earnings.
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Re: "You have landed successfully."
« Reply #106 on: August 18, 2011, 12:47:31 AM »
It enhances it for me and for the others in favor.

False. It isn't nothing. Crashing in on the belly is more "nothing" than a proper landing. It's not a fixed bonus. It's proportionate to your normal earnings.

I don't care either way but I'm curious why you feel points or perks would be needed if you already land em because it enhances the game for you?  isn't that enough?

One of the never ending back and forth debates in this game is trying to get folks to 'play your way'.  We've all been guilty of pushing our game agendas in one way or another.  This seems to be along those lines.
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Re: "You have landed successfully."
« Reply #107 on: August 18, 2011, 01:13:43 AM »
Doesn't much matter at this point. This thread was not intended to be an official wish, but to see what people thought about the concept. It was originally posted in the General Discussion section as such but was moved into the Wish section. That wasn't my intent.
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Re: "You have landed successfully."
« Reply #108 on: August 18, 2011, 04:22:21 AM »
It enhances it for me and for the others in favor.

False. It isn't nothing. Crashing in on the belly is more "nothing" than a proper landing. It's not a fixed bonus. It's proportionate to your normal earnings.

how is it going to enhance something you already do.  it is like asking for extra points for killing another airplane.

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Re: "You have landed successfully."
« Reply #109 on: August 18, 2011, 08:33:45 AM »
how is it going to enhance something you already do.  it is like asking for extra points for killing another airplane.

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you ALREADY get a 1.25x bonus for "landing" belly or otherwise on pavement.. should that be taken away? after all, it's getting extra points for doing nothing.


how about, landing with landing gear gets you the full 1.25x bonus, landing without gear only gives ya 1.1x ?
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Re: "You have landed successfully."
« Reply #110 on: August 18, 2011, 11:10:58 AM »
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Re: "You have landed successfully."
« Reply #111 on: August 18, 2011, 11:11:40 AM »
Belly landing is a ditch no matter where it occurs.

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Re: "You have landed successfully."
« Reply #112 on: August 18, 2011, 11:37:49 AM »
Belly landing is a ditch no matter where it occurs.

uh...  no

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Re: "You have landed successfully."
« Reply #113 on: August 18, 2011, 11:52:32 AM »
The plane won't be upping for another sortie for a long time........if ever, after a belly landing.

Gamers gonna game.


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Re: "You have landed successfully."
« Reply #114 on: August 18, 2011, 01:15:46 PM »
you ALREADY get a 1.25x bonus for "landing" belly or otherwise on pavement.. should that be taken away? after all, it's getting extra points for doing nothing.


how about, landing with landing gear gets you the full 1.25x bonus, landing without gear only gives ya 1.1x ?

That's been the general idea of this thread all along. Sadly people misunderstood (or didn't read my original post) what I was getting at. The thought is - x1.25 sticks for whatever on pavement, x1.30 granted for wheels.

The plane won't be upping for another sortie for a long time........if ever, after a belly landing.

Gamers gonna game.



My point exactly. The airplanes shouldn't be used as disposable cups. They get put back in the dishwasher and used again (figuratively speaking).
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Re: "You have landed successfully."
« Reply #115 on: August 18, 2011, 02:11:26 PM »
you ALREADY get a 1.25x bonus for "landing" belly or otherwise on pavement.. should that be taken away? after all, it's getting extra points for doing nothing.


how about, landing with landing gear gets you the full 1.25x bonus, landing without gear only gives ya 1.1x ?

then you will take away the points from people who's landing gear was damaged in combat and they managed to limp back to base and belly land.  I think they are the one's who deserve the 1.25x just for effort.

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Re: "You have landed successfully."
« Reply #116 on: August 18, 2011, 02:44:01 PM »
Gamers gonna game.

This may come as a shock to some, but Aces High actually is a game.  What's been suggested isn't any more "real" than the alternative.  Did real World War II pilots receive perks when they landed with wheels down?  Were they punished for returning home with perfectly legitimate plane damage?  Spin it as a way to promote more realistic behavior, but this proposal attempts to do so within the confines of the game in a completely gamey and arbitrary way.



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Re: "You have landed successfully."
« Reply #117 on: August 18, 2011, 02:48:15 PM »
This may come as a shock to some, but Aces High actually is a game.  What's been suggested isn't any more "real" than the alternative.  Did real World War II pilots receive perks when they landed with wheels down?  Were they punished for returning home with perfectly legitimate plane damage?  Spin it as a way to promote more realistic behavior, but this proposal attempts to do so within the confines of the game in a completely gamey and arbitrary way.




I see your point, but if HTC has gone so far to model as perfect as possible the flight charcteristics of the aircraft then behaving as real of a pilot as possible should have its merits, imo. If that means being able to roll into the hanger then so be it.
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Re: "You have landed successfully."
« Reply #118 on: August 18, 2011, 03:01:23 PM »
I see your point, but if HTC has gone so far to model as perfect as possible the flight charcteristics of the aircraft then behaving as real of a pilot as possible should have its merits, imo. If that means being able to roll into the hanger then so be it.

So then any time a pilot 'dies' in game, he loses his ID other then to have it placed on a cartoon gravestone.  All Perks and Points are lost.  If he bails over enemy territory and gets to the ground alive he is placed in a cartoon POW compound for as long as the war goes on.  Only when the war is won is he able to actually fly again.  Oh and he loses all perks and points and must start at 0 as it's a new war.

Pilot's will be permanently assigned planes as to the need of the country they fly for.  While they may have dreamed of being a fighter pilot, they may end up as a co-pilot in a 4 engine bomber, or flying dive bombers.  Fighter pilots will be assigned to planes available which may not always include the latest and greatest.  They may be forced to go into combat in a lesser bird then their 'enemies' for the sake of their country.....


You get the idea.  If we're really going to do 'realism' then let there be a cost to it as well.

That being said, I can't get past that it's a game. :aok
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Re: "You have landed successfully."
« Reply #119 on: August 18, 2011, 03:23:07 PM »

You get the idea.  If we're really going to do 'realism' then let there be a cost to it as well.

That being said, I can't get past that it's a game. :aok

It is, but its a flight simulator also.. approach and landing is a big part of flight sims.  that's why I dont think this is one of those "selective realism" things that hitech has mentioned before.. He already rewards people for landing.. why not reward them for landing correctly?

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