"You have landed successfully."

[B-17]

No, I just was too lazy to read the whole freaking thread.

[grizz441]

No, I just was too lazy to read the whole freaking thread.

In the dark remain then you shall.

[ink]

What took you so long? All I wanted to hear is you agree it is a war. (simulated of course, right buuuuuuuuuuddy?)

And of course it promotes combat, all the best wars do.

In the future, please don't use big words. I have to go look them up.

 

you made me 

"dont use big words....."

 

that was good

[PJ_Godzilla]

Never seen that pic before.  Once the shock wears off...

And he cleans the brown lumps out of his flight suit...

[icepac]

Wait, I'm confused... why would someone ditch on the runway if their undercarriage is undamaged? Does it look cool or something?

Not sure why they won't land but they sure complain about flight model accuracy.

[B-17]

I remember seeing a wish for this a little while ago, regarding sparks flying as his metal grinds against the runway because he has taken damage to his landing gear.

My vote is yes. For that, anyways.

As to the OP of this thread, I vote absolutely.

[PJ_Godzilla]

Not only should we add a small fraction to the perk multiplier for wheels down, we should make those perks exchangeable for a universal firepower variant. We could borrow it from Doom and call it the BFG-9000. That, and I'd like a special "zero grav" power up that I can buy when I'm in midflight with some kind of keystroke or cockpit pick. It'd be good to have a whole series of these kind of power-ups, like, for example, "invisible ac, shoot around corners, designatable missile, smokescreen cloud, etc."

What?

haaaw, haaaw...

[icepac]

Another non-lander speaks?

[PJ_Godzilla]

Nah. I land -and, as I said earlier, am in favor of making it a perkable offense. I just think we should reward good form, to the extent we can do so objectively. The question of wheels up or down is one such objective metric.

Occasionally, during FSO, the squaddies and I have actually done rollouts from the hangar, taxiing all the way to the take-off like ducks in a row. It makes things so much more fun and colorful, imj. Those who play it like Doom will never know...

[icepac]

I agree.

I should probably do some testing to find out the time differences between wheels down and wheels up landings.

Does anybody know the maximum speed you can land gear up on the runway and survive?

[grizz441]

I agree.

I should probably do some testing to find out the time differences between wheels down and wheels up landings.

Does anybody know the maximum speed you can land gear up on the runway and survive?

Not sure.  I remember back in AW3 it was very difficult to land without a gear, especially in the P38.  You had to touch down just at the right angle at a very slow speed, otherwise it was instant death.  Now, I don't think it should be that drastic in Aces High but there should either be one of the following things done or a combination:

1) Require a slower speed and reduced angle of decent to properly land without gear
2) Reduce points as reflection of accrued damage to landed aircraft in the landed bonus multiplier.  

Oh and another huge reason why it makes more sense to land without a gear if there is no demerit:  You don't have to worry about rolling off the end of the runway! Or the carrier for that matter, or being slingshot off the end of the carrier.  Why use a tail hook on a carrier plane and risk death when you can just belly flop it right on the deck and be stopped in one second? 

Again, in the current game, it makes the most sense to land without a landing gear, which imo, is not in the spirit of reproducing the art of WW2 aviation.

[Tilt]

Let the records show that I do not think you should get a ditch for landing no wheels.  I simply think a small portion of the landed perk multiplier (what is it now 1.25?) should be a function of damage inflicted to your aircraft.

I too would have some sympathy with this view....  the counter arguement will be that such stuff promotes timid flying with a reluctance to enter combat unless the odds are securely stacked in the average AH pilits favour with a subsequent degradation in game play.

However even given the above counter arguement I think that landing an undamaged ac should incurr some sort of bonus.............

[Wmaker]

Does anybody know the maximum speed you can land gear up on the runway and survive?

No exact information, but I've found it's around 170mph.

[icepac]

The whole "landed successfully" needs revamping when you land on the wheels and end flight in the center of the field with one wheel slightly off the concrete and you are credited a ditch....yet someone lands gear up and get's credited a landing.

A ditch on the runway is still a ditch and a landing within the airfield with your plane undamaged is a landing.

[guncrasher]

No exact information, but I've found it's around 170mph.

i have landed as high as 200 but made the tail scrape the runway first to slow me down but that was unusual as it will kill you most of the time.  around 170 is more like it as long as your nose is up and tail touches ground first.  in ponyd you from the time it touches runway to the time you are back in a brand new plane it takes about 5 seconds.

semp