Author Topic: When Is It Alright to HO?  (Read 8442 times)

Offline titanic3

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Re: When Is It Alright to HO?
« Reply #45 on: August 31, 2011, 12:25:06 PM »
You do not.  I can't remember the last time I flew a Runstang.

I find it telling that you had enough HO events last night that you are confusing them in your memory.

You keep on this charade where I'm the bad guy that HOs everything I see. I do not. You're being paranoid that I'll HO you everytime. Just today, Ive fought a 2 v 1 where all three of us respected each other and did not HO once. It wasn't until friendlies came over that the fight dissapated. Like I said, I only HO in the situations I described.

If you're so bent on whooping me in a fight, send me a challenge to the DA or a remote base in the MA.

And now that remember, you were in a Ki84. Over V33/V34 on the cruddiest map ever made.

  the game is concentrated on combat, not on shaking the screen.

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Re: When Is It Alright to HO?
« Reply #46 on: August 31, 2011, 12:27:03 PM »
I TRY to avoid the ho, but if I fail over and over again I will ho eventually! If there is no way for me to get around the other plane I will do what I have to do to survive the fight..

But I usually try the other options first.. And I find that I survive longer by avoiding a ho than by going for it, even if it means I'll have to start my turn before the merge. It is all about angles, and making yourself as small and fast moving profile as possible in the air..  :bolt:

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Re: When Is It Alright to HO?
« Reply #47 on: August 31, 2011, 12:27:07 PM »
Also, If i encounter a plane i KNOW can outperform mine to a great extend, I'll take whatever shot i got on him, That includes the HO shot.


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Re: When Is It Alright to HO?
« Reply #48 on: August 31, 2011, 12:31:15 PM »
its always OK to HO because it makes the enemy cry and i live off of those yummy tears.
what are you talking about? you don't play online...i'm sure the a.i.'s are sitting in the oclub cryin in their beer.   :rolleyes:
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Re: When Is It Alright to HO?
« Reply #49 on: August 31, 2011, 12:41:00 PM »
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Grizz, bring your 262 around my p40 and i'll HO you too  :t

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Re: When Is It Alright to HO?
« Reply #50 on: August 31, 2011, 12:47:01 PM »
Grizz, bring your 262 around my p40 and i'll HO you too  :t

I'm fine with that.  Can I take a K4 though?  My 262 is more for horde busting than actual 1v1 fighting.

As for your P40E vs Spit9-automatic ho example... You will be surprised to find that the Spit9 does not turn that much better than a P40E.  So if you are going to surrender all fights to the 50/50 chances of a HO at a slight disadvantage, you are really doing yourself a disservice.  May Zeus Levi strike you down with a thunderbolt.


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Re: When Is It Alright to HO?
« Reply #51 on: August 31, 2011, 01:11:33 PM »
I look at it this way...

I will go out of my way to avoid "HOING" on the initial merge if at all possible.  (the exception to this is if someone comes head on at me when I am flying a B25H... then they deserve what they get... a facefull of 50's and a 75MM)

Anyway... when dogfighting... I deliberately do not fire unless fired upon for the initial merge, and even then I will move to avoid if I can so I can try to maneuver for position and take a "safe shot".

To me... that's what this game is about.  A 1 second engagement that sends one or both pilots to the tower, after a 5 minute flight just to get there is annoying.  I dont mind dying... but geez... at least use some skill to kill me.  Playing chicken doesnt require any.

Now... with that said, after the initial merge, all bets are off IMO.  If my opponent is turning into me, doesnt quite have a gun solution, but I do... I am firing.  And I expect him to do the same.

In a furball, with multiple enemies, if something passes in front of my guns and I can take a snapshot... I will.  And I expect the same in return.

The idea that EVERY shot needs to be made from the rear quarters is rather silly... but in the same token, make the fight enjoyable.  Use some skill, learn something from it... and become a better player for it.

No... it doesnt take 2 to HO... but there are plenty of ways to avoid one most of the time.

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Re: When Is It Alright to HO?
« Reply #52 on: August 31, 2011, 01:58:12 PM »
im not sure what kind of ho were talking about anymore, the ones on main street or the ones in game? :lol

anywho...i think you should take a shot when you have it because you just might end up losing that shot later on due to a friendly/ack. or you could take it if your hurt and just wanna say "dont shove your guns in my face" kind of warning.

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Re: When Is It Alright to HO?
« Reply #53 on: August 31, 2011, 02:13:55 PM »
or when they are rolling down the runway just about to get wheels up?

actually i was heading for the ack, you got on the way. and that wasnt even a ho as i was from from your left at a 45 angle.

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you dont want me to ho, dont point your plane at me.

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Re: When Is It Alright to HO?
« Reply #54 on: August 31, 2011, 02:21:42 PM »
or when they are rolling down the runway just about to get wheels up?

Ah, you are talking about the sport of kings.  That's different than a HO. :aok
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Re: When Is It Alright to HO?
« Reply #55 on: August 31, 2011, 02:21:50 PM »
If you're flying over a runway, that means either you were:

1. Vulching
2. Dropping Ords
3. Chasing Someone

I'll take a shot at you on the ground if you happen to cross my sights. Especially if you're vulching and decide to come in from my high 12 o'clock.

  the game is concentrated on combat, not on shaking the screen.

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Re: When Is It Alright to HO?
« Reply #56 on: August 31, 2011, 02:23:34 PM »
When is it okay to HO?  Whenever it's tactically advantageous.

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Re: When Is It Alright to HO?
« Reply #57 on: August 31, 2011, 02:29:51 PM »
I am against the HO shot at all cost... UNLESS I am going at the other guy... OR he is coming at ME   :devil
A better post may be " when is it NOT ok to ho? "   :devil

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Re: When Is It Alright to HO?
« Reply #58 on: August 31, 2011, 03:05:38 PM »
When is it okay to HO?  Whenever it's tactically advantageous.

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Re: When Is It Alright to HO?
« Reply #59 on: August 31, 2011, 03:10:39 PM »
When is it okay to HO?  Whenever it's tactically advantageous.

I agree.