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Offline Specs

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dont move your controls so rapidly
« on: August 31, 2011, 04:38:29 AM »
 Anyone else get "don't move your controls so rapidly" far too often? I never see anyone else complain about it.
 Ive always been plagued with it, at least a couple of times a night & always at the worst possible times.
 I always thought it was the computer trying to catch up but people always tell me its to stop stik stirring cheats.
 I wrote in to Roy & he said it was to simulate the forces on control surfaces at speed & to move the controls slower.
 Anyone else making a conscious effort to move thier controls slowly?
 I even get it stall fighting where you could slam your controls around as fast & often as possible.
 They don't seem to have any trouble simming other slow responses like when one elevator or aileron are missing or slugishness in a very fast dive.
 Even as a sim substitute an 8 second time out penalty seems absurdly punitive & misplaced.
 Ive reset damping & dead band way above where i want them & got some results but it seems it would happen more to everyone especially new people & i rarely see anyone mention it. It makes the game largely unplayable for me & ruins many a good fight.
 Id be happy just to find others who share the problem & maybe find out why.
 I am running old gear; P4 with a 512 agp nvidia. Its gone on through three computers & several different sticks.
 This is my first post effort so I hope I'm in the right spot & doing it correctly
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Re: dont move your controls so rapidly
« Reply #1 on: August 31, 2011, 04:50:53 AM »
Try calibrating your stick in AH, usually helps.

Open the clipboard, go to "options", then "controls", and click on "calibrate joystick".
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Re: dont move your controls so rapidly
« Reply #2 on: August 31, 2011, 05:07:44 AM »
 Anyone else get "don't move your controls so rapidly" far too often? I never see anyone else complain about it.
 Ive always been plagued with it, at least a couple of times a night & always at the worst possible times.
 I always thought it was the computer trying to catch up but people always tell me its to stop stik stirring cheats.
 I wrote in to Roy & he said it was to simulate the forces on control surfaces at speed & to move the controls slower.
 Anyone else making a conscious effort to move thier controls slowly?
 I even get it stall fighting where you could slam your controls around as fast & often as possible.
 They don't seem to have any trouble simming other slow responses like when one elevator or aileron are missing or sluggishness in a very fast dive.
 Even as a sim substitute an 8 second time out penalty seems absurdly punitive & misplaced.
 Ive reset damping & dead band way above where i want them & got some results but it seems it would happen more to everyone especially new people & i rarely see anyone mention it. It makes the game largely unplayable for me & ruins many a good fight.
 Id be happy just to find others who share the problem & maybe find out why.
 I am running old gear; P4 with a 512 agp nvidia. Its gone on through three computers & several different sticks.
 This is my first post effort so I hope I'm in the right spot & doing it correctly
Thanks for the listen,
  Specs

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Re: dont move your controls so rapidly
« Reply #3 on: August 31, 2011, 05:13:03 AM »
Try calibrating your stick in AH, usually helps.

Open the clipboard, go to "options", then "controls", and click on "calibrate joystick".
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Re: dont move your controls so rapidly
« Reply #4 on: August 31, 2011, 05:15:02 AM »
For other people who post here, Specs already make the same thread in the Technical Support forum, let's use that one. http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,319494.0.html
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Re: dont move your controls so rapidly
« Reply #5 on: August 31, 2011, 05:15:55 AM »
First make sure that you have your stick calibrated correctly in Windows and then you'll need to calibrate it twice in AH.  In AH, if you click on the clipboard --> options --> controls --> map controllers.  In that section, click on the axis for your controls and then click on the "Calibrate Axis" button and follow the instructions.  Do this for each axis assigned to your controllers.  Now the axis are properly calibrated.  Next, time to calibrate your joystick.  Bring up the clipboard again, go to options --> controls --> calibrate joystick.

Your controllers should now be properly calibrated.  If you still receive that error message, it's time to start looking at the controllers themselves as the potential cause.  It is possible that you may need to use an external powered USB hub to ensure that the proper voltage (5 volts), otherwise you may experience what you're currently experiencing.  Another possible cause could be that the potentiometers are going south on you and you need to replace them or get a new stick.

What kind of stick are you using?

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Re: dont move your controls so rapidly
« Reply #6 on: August 31, 2011, 05:47:13 AM »
Adjust Deadband + Damping.


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Re: dont move your controls so rapidly
« Reply #7 on: August 31, 2011, 05:55:46 AM »
Try calibrating your stick in AH, usually helps.

Open the clipboard, go to "options", then "controls", and click on "calibrate joystick".

This helps me.  I get that message about once a night if I forget to calibrate in game.  After I calibrate, no problems.
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Re: dont move your controls so rapidly
« Reply #8 on: August 31, 2011, 06:55:59 AM »
I used to hate that message but I understand the reasons for it. HTC adjusted the code so it doesn't happen close to stall speed which was helpful. Deadband won't make any difference but you can usually get rid of it with damping if your stick is calibrated and isn't spiking. The issue with damping, as you noticed, is that it makes the stick response seem mushy so your best bet is to follow Skuzzy's advice and make it a habit to move the stick and rudder control slower.

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Re: dont move your controls so rapidly
« Reply #9 on: August 31, 2011, 09:37:05 AM »
  When I used cheap sticks like logitec I had that message frequently as the stick wore out. Burnt through a few until I upgraded to a CH Combatstick. That solved the issue for me.  :D
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Re: dont move your controls so rapidly
« Reply #10 on: August 31, 2011, 11:07:44 AM »
I'm pretty sure you can get that while sitting on the runway.  Just wiggle the controls around quickly.  It doesn't seem to me to be airspeed related, only how fast you move your controls around.
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Re: dont move your controls so rapidly
« Reply #11 on: August 31, 2011, 11:30:50 AM »
I'm pretty sure you can get that while sitting on the runway.  Just wiggle the controls around quickly.  It doesn't seem to me to be airspeed related, only how fast you move your controls around.

It used to be like that but it was changed to a percentage of stall speed in response to a wishlist request.

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Re: dont move your controls so rapidly
« Reply #12 on: August 31, 2011, 11:43:15 AM »
Ah, cool; good to know.
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Re: dont move your controls so rapidly
« Reply #13 on: August 31, 2011, 12:31:43 PM »
It used to be like that but it was changed to a percentage of stall speed in response to a wishlist request.

That's great, when did that happen?
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Re: dont move your controls so rapidly
« Reply #14 on: August 31, 2011, 01:11:48 PM »
It was changed a couple of years ago.   :joystick: