Icons on now?

[grumpy37]

Please turn them back off.  It was the last thing that made this arena different from the others.

[Shane]

3k for both sides... was discussed upon very recently.

alt-i will also toggle your icon settings, including no icons. the choice is yours. you can be different.   

[grumpy37]

I know i can change what i see but i cant change what they see.  Oh well, guess FSO is my last chance.  They still leave Icons off right?  I live on the east coast now so time shouldnt be an issue anymore.

[ImADot]

FSO never had "no icons". It's always been "short" 3k icons for both sides.

Icons came back to AvA when HTC introduced player-spawned custom arenas and altered the minimum icon range to 1k or something. I thought they since changed back to minimum of 0 because of the flood of complaints.

[grumpy37]

Hmmm  ok  well im still gonna give FSO a shot, always been interested in it. 

[Puma44]

Please turn them back off.  It was the last thing that made this arena different from the others.

What Grumpy said!   

[waystin2]

It was the last thing that made this arena different from the others.

Hello Grumpy,

Do you mean the last thing besides the historical plane match-ups, battle reenactments, the awesome unique maps, Axis planes not fighting against Axis planes/vehicles, Allied planes not fighting against Allied planes/vehicles, not to mention the highly involved CM's and Admins?  I could go on.  Point is that it is a minor thing in a potentially great arena that I hope to see grow in popularity.  The icons at a reduced range are a great matchup for those that participate in scenarios and in the mains and is more benefit than detriment to the health of the AVA.  I hope you hang in there for the ride Sir.

 

Way

[grumpy37]

I see your points but still feel the no Icon was what set the AvA totally apart from all other arenas.  It calls upon a greater skill in my opinion to fight not knowing till just before the merge what your up against exactly.  Creates the need for split second decisions on how to engage the enemy, not watching the little red number tick down to 0 and all the time to formulate your actions.  Just my opinion.  Love the maps, plane sets and all but with icons to me its just another arena.  Maybe numbers started to decline the short time i was gone but i remember many many nights of 30+ in the arena or more.  Maybe i speak for myself but I dont want another arena with 200+ guys playing capture the flag at all costs, we already have 4 arenas for that. This was something different on many levels from any other arena and I just dont want to see it become just another arena.  Granted just my point of view but i also know im not alone.  Ive always given the staff for this arena high marks for what they have done but I also feel as a player and regular of the arena I should voice my opinions as feedback for future changes.  AvA to be honest was the sole reason i didnt cancel my account 9 months ago and Ive been playing this game for almost 10 years.

[Nathan60]

well, declining numbers  might just be the sole reason icons are back on. Maybe after the pop  rises  again  they will go  no icon after more have had a chance to experience  the AVA and realize  its usually a better fight in there.

[CAP1]

Please turn them back off.  It was the last thing that made this arena different from the others.

 if they're on, this is just a reason for not coming in.........oh well. it was good while it lasted. 

[waystin2]

it was good while it lasted. 

The only constant thing in life is change Cap.  I sincerely hope that you fellers will reconsider your positions.  If you do not, then you will be missed.

 

Way

[ImADot]

If you're using icons on/off as justification for quitting, you quit long ago and just needed to have an excuse show up.

[grumpy37]

Its a little deeper then that Dot.  I guess my point is that with the icons turned back on when it boils down to it the arena itself, not the players per say, is not much different then the others. I liked the "elite" type players the no icons attracted.  Ive been over the MA type play style for a long time.  The only reason ive hung on this long is the friends ive made playing the game.  Im not saying im going to quit the arena or the game.  Ill ride it out and see what happens.  I just wanted my voice heard, weather or not its listened to    all

[CAP1]

The only constant thing in life is change Cap.  I sincerely hope that you fellers will reconsider your positions.  If you do not, then you will be missed.

 

Way

 i'll possibly give it a try when i get to a point where i can log into the arenas again, but to be honest, i liked the fact that ava was different than the other arenas. now, if they're on, it's just another mw or lw arena.

[CAP1]

If you're using icons on/off as justification for quitting, you quit long ago and just needed to have an excuse show up.

 i think you know me better than that dot.