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Re: The Doors
« Reply #60 on: October 10, 2011, 04:30:53 PM »
Brian May did that 30 years after Robby Krieger.

All of Brian's harmony lines were doubletracked on queen albums.

They were not done with delay.

Yeah... None of the videos i posted were of Brian May in the studio.  He used delay extensively live to great affect.  My comment was that Malmsteem (or whatever) was borrowing more from May than anyone.

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Re: The Doors
« Reply #61 on: October 11, 2011, 02:07:01 PM »
Makes sense but I remember Brian May using an eventide harmonizer for his live harmonies.

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« Reply #62 on: October 11, 2011, 04:14:55 PM »
Brian May did that 30 years after Robby Krieger.

All of Brian's harmony lines were doubletracked on queen albums.

They were not done with delay.


Makes sense but I remember Brian May using an eventide harmonizer for his live harmonies.

1.  Guitar "harmonies" are a lot easier to do in the studio, than live.
2.  Most forget that beyond the 9 - Vox AC30's May uses on stage, John Deacon built him "Deacy" which he will often place a coat over it, while recording. 
3.  Now, starting in 1972 Brian May was using in the Echoplex EP3 Tape Delay Studio and On-Stage (Gilmour and Wright from Pink Floyd used the Binson Echorec for Delay).    Actually, he used two of them.    Three amps on the Non-Delay Channel, three for Echoplex EP3 Delay 1 and three more for Echoplex EP3 Delay 2.   Pete Cornish was hired by May to design and implement this system (later commissioned by David Gilmour in 76/77, 79, 99 & 06 to manufacture new pedal boards for each year listed).    The above configuration was used on stage and in the studio until The Works.    At that time (1982), he swapped the Echoplex EP3 Delay in favor for digital units.   One of them at 900ms and the other to 1800ms.   

In response, They were done with delay.   

Brian May is probably the Master of Delay, with Gilmour right on his arse.

BTW, News Of The World, was the first album that featured Brian May with an Eventide Harmonizer.....
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« Reply #63 on: October 11, 2011, 10:00:57 PM »
Since I've been a fan of the Doors since their inception........they were truly unique.

You HAD to be ther at that time to realize that.

My favorite song...Land Ho!

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« Reply #64 on: October 11, 2011, 10:12:18 PM »
Overrated like the Beatles and Nirvana.

   Ya and the wheel and fire aint much either.

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Re: The Doors
« Reply #65 on: October 11, 2011, 10:16:14 PM »
Makes sense but I remember Brian May using an eventide harmonizer for his live harmonies.

All delay...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sbr7N_-rSz0

Same song from Live Killers..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgOM9Ik8u2Y
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Re: The Doors
« Reply #66 on: October 11, 2011, 11:10:02 PM »
If it is all delay, then why does the initial note have a harmony?

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« Reply #67 on: October 11, 2011, 11:15:41 PM »
"The killer woke before dawn,
he put his boots on,
and went and he took a face from the ancient gallery,
and he walked on down the hall"...........



The Doors are masterful, tragic, yet soothing.  It is too bad things were cut short for them.
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Re: The Doors
« Reply #68 on: October 11, 2011, 11:19:42 PM »
If it is all delay, then why does the initial note have a harmony?

Because he didn't use a harmonizer on the first five studio albums and their respective tours.   Brighton Rock uses only Delay.   
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Re: The Doors
« Reply #69 on: October 12, 2011, 10:01:38 AM »
Since I've been a fan of the Doors since their inception........they were truly unique.

You HAD to be ther at that time to realize that.

My favorite song...Land Ho!

Grandpa was a Sailorrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr ............he sailed the seven Seas   :rock
Almost as good as the Beatles :D
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« Reply #70 on: October 12, 2011, 01:52:09 PM »
Almost as good as the Beatles :D

BJ...unfortunately I was there at the inception of the Beatles........dam I'm old.

The Beatles didn't impress me at all.....The Kinks, Dave Clark five, and the Stones did.

I'm one of the few that just shrugged and yawned at I wanna hold your hand, she loves ya yaaaa yaaaaa yaaaaaaaa.

To bubblegum for my tastes.  John Lennon however at the later stages...with him I was impressed.
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« Reply #71 on: October 12, 2011, 01:58:45 PM »
BJ...unfortunately I was there at the inception of the Beatles........dam I'm old.

The Beatles didn't impress me at all.....The Kinks, Dave Clark five, and the Stones did.

I'm one of the few that just shrugged and yawned at I wanna hold your hand, she loves ya yaaaa yaaaaa yaaaaaaaa.

To bubblegum for my tastes.  John Lennon however at the later stages...with him I was impressed.

 tend to agree with you Hajo,except you forgot the Hollies!!!  I will say that once the Beatles stopped playing live and went into the studio they changed music forever and Lennon/McCartney were the most prolific song writers of our time!   Ya I'm as  :old: as you,still remember when they were on Ed Sullivan the first time!     :x



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« Reply #72 on: October 12, 2011, 02:24:13 PM »
BJ...unfortunately I was there at the inception of the Beatles........dam I'm old.

The Beatles didn't impress me at all.....The Kinks, Dave Clark five, and the Stones did.

I'm one of the few that just shrugged and yawned at I wanna hold your hand, she loves ya yaaaa yaaaaa yaaaaaaaa.

To bubblegum for my tastes.  John Lennon however at the later stages...with him I was impressed.

Badfinger has always been a favorite of mine.    The Kinks are another favorite of mine.   Both do not get the respect they deserve.
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« Reply #73 on: October 12, 2011, 02:50:21 PM »
BJ...unfortunately I was there at the inception of the Beatles........dam I'm old.

The Beatles didn't impress me at all.....The Kinks, Dave Clark five, and the Stones did.

I'm one of the few that just shrugged and yawned at I wanna hold your hand, she loves ya yaaaa yaaaaa yaaaaaaaa.

To bubblegum for my tastes.  John Lennon however at the later stages...with him I was impressed.

a little factoid about the beatles that most don't know and the ones that do know ignore........when they very first got together they played a different type of music, they also had long hair....but the studios didn't like ether, so they made them change their look and music, they where completely re-made up by the studios so parents would like them and not just the youth.

the beatles where the first "pop/commercial" band and suk today just as much as they did back then.

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Re: The Doors
« Reply #74 on: October 12, 2011, 02:57:34 PM »
a little factoid about the beatles that most don't know and the ones that do know ignore........when they very first got together they played a different type of music, they also had long hair....but the studios didn't like ether, so they made them change their look and music, they where completely re-made up by the studios so parents would like them and not just the youth.

the beatles where the first "pop/commercial" band and suk today just as much as they did back then.

Find me a serious musician that doesn't respect The Beatles for being one of the most innovative, and ground breaking bands in history.

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