The Doors

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Find me a serious musician that doesn't respect The Beatles for being one of the most innovative, and ground breaking bands in history.

there are plenty......


and besides that don't change the facts....


take AC/DC  the worst rock and roll band ever, yet they are huge.....KISS suks yet huge.......

I could go on and on


like that song that never ends....

[branch37]

there are plenty......


and besides that don't change the facts....


take AC/DC  the worst rock and roll band ever, yet they are huge.....KISS suks yet huge.......

I could go on and on


like that song that never ends....

Its not a matter of what you think sucks.  Now I'm not attacking your taste in music here, just stating things from my point of view. 

Im not a huge AC/DC or KISS fan either, but in the case of KISS, they were innovative, they revolutionized the "glam" rock genre, and I give them the respect they deserve for that, even if Gene Simmons is a huge tool.

I don't care for bands like the Kinks either, just not my style of music, but I give them the respect they deserve for getting a whole new style of music going. 
Most of all I cant stand rap.  It just doesn't speak to me they way rock and roll does, in fact, it just makes me mad, but I give respect to groups like RunDMC for being innovators and getting a whole new ball rolling.  Now if anyone can deny that The Beatles weren't innovators, and urged along a whole new style of music, and were some of the most talented musicians in history, then In my opinion, they are seriously confused.  You don't have to like their music, just give respect where it is deserved. 

[Pigslilspaz]

Its not a matter of what you think sucks.  Now I'm not attacking your taste in music here, just stating things from my point of view. 

Im not a huge AC/DC or KISS fan either, but in the case of KISS, they were innovative, they revolutionized the "glam" rock genre, and I give them the respect they deserve for that, even if Gene Simmons is a huge tool.

I don't care for bands like the Kinks either, just not my style of music, but I give them the respect they deserve for getting a whole new style of music going. 
Most of all I cant stand rap.  It just doesn't speak to me they way rock and roll does, in fact, it just makes me mad, but I give respect to groups like RunDMC for being innovators and getting a whole new ball rolling.  Now if anyone can deny that The Beatles weren't innovators, and urged along a whole new style of music, and were some of the most talented musicians in history, then In my opinion, they are seriously confused.  You don't have to like their music, just give respect where it is deserved. 

 

[Masherbrum]

Its not a matter of what you think sucks.  Now I'm not attacking your taste in music here, just stating things from my point of view.  

Im not a huge AC/DC or KISS fan either, but in the case of KISS, they were innovative, they revolutionized the "glam" rock genre, and I give them the respect they deserve for that, even if Gene Simmons is a huge tool.

I don't care for bands like the Kinks either, just not my style of music, but I give them the respect they deserve for getting a whole new style of music going.  
Most of all I cant stand rap.  It just doesn't speak to me they way rock and roll does, in fact, it just makes me mad, but I give respect to groups like RunDMC for being innovators and getting a whole new ball rolling.  Now if anyone can deny that The Beatles weren't innovators, and urged along a whole new style of music, and were some of the most talented musicians in history, then In my opinion, they are seriously confused.  You don't have to like their music, just give respect where it is deserved.  

Kiss innovated nothing except marketing their own brand of BS.   New York Dolls, Marc Bolan & Bowie were already well ahead of the glam rock scene before Kiss entered the picture.

Kiss also lifted quite a few things early on from Alice Cooper.   It is evident in the old footage.

I am with Ink on the "Kiss is overrated/sucks" thing.   Musically though, those with any talent habe already left the band.

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Kiss innovated nothing except marketing their own brand of BS.   New York Dolls, Marc Bolan & Bowie were already well ahead of the glam rock scene before Kiss entered the picture.

Kiss also lifted quite a few things early on from Alice Cooper.   It is evident in the old footage.

I am with Ink on the "Kiss is overrated/sucks" thing.   Musically though, those with any talent habe already left the band.

I agree KISS does suck.  Maybe instead of innovated I should have said they just took to a new level what bands you mentioned had already established.  

EDIT: they did have some good stuff early on though when Ace Frehley was still in the band

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Its not a matter of what you think sucks.  Now I'm not attacking your taste in music here, just stating things from my point of view. 

Im not a huge AC/DC or KISS fan either, but in the case of KISS, they were innovative, they revolutionized the "glam" rock genre, and I give them the respect they deserve for that, even if Gene Simmons is a huge tool.

I don't care for bands like the Kinks either, just not my style of music, but I give them the respect they deserve for getting a whole new style of music going. 
Most of all I cant stand rap.  It just doesn't speak to me they way rock and roll does, in fact, it just makes me mad, but I give respect to groups like RunDMC for being innovators and getting a whole new ball rolling.  Now if anyone can deny that The Beatles weren't innovators, and urged along a whole new style of music, and were some of the most talented musicians in history, then In my opinion, they are seriously confused.  You don't have to like their music, just give respect where it is deserved. 

ok so the beatles deserve respect for being the first band to sell out.....they did not do anything that others were not doing they were not innovators.....

maybe I am just to narrow minded to see beyond the greatness of real musicians such as

Led Zeppelin-The best of the best
Queen
Fleetwood Mac
Jimi Hendrix
The Doors
Three dog night
Yardbirds
Blood sweat tears
Niel Young
Jethro Tull
The Guess Who
The Who
Crosby Stills and Nash
Canned Heat
The Animals
Eric Clapton
Frank Zappa
Cream
Steppenwolf
Ten Years After
Santana
Sly and the Family Stone
Heart
Moody Blues
Janis Joplin
lynard Skynard
Black Sabbath
Van Morrison
Jefferson Airplane
Bob Dylan
CCR
Pink Floyd
Alice Cooper
Stevie Ray Vaughn
Bad Company
Queensryche
Megadeth
Flotsam and Jetsam
DIO
Judas Priest
ZZ-top
Aerosmith (although not a fan)
Cheap Trick
Warrior Soul

.......drawing a blank......

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ok so the beatles deserve respect for being the first band to sell out.....they did not do anything that others were not doing they were not innovators.....

maybe I am just to narrow minded to see beyond the greatness of real musicians such as

Led Zeppelin-The best of the best
Queen
Fleetwood Mac
Jimi Hendrix
The Doors
Three dog night
Yardbirds
Blood sweat tears
Niel Young
Jethro Tull
The Guess Who
The Who
Crosby Stills and Nash
Canned Heat
The Animals
Eric Clapton
Frank Zappa
Cream
Steppenwolf
Ten Years After
Santana
Sly and the Family Stone
Heart
Moody Blues
Janis Joplin
lynard Skynard
Black Sabbath
Van Morrison
Jefferson Airplane
Bob Dylan
CCR
Pink Floyd
Alice Cooper
Stevie Ray Vaughn
Bad Company
Queensryche
Megadeth
Flotsam and Jetsam
DIO
Judas Priest
ZZ-top
Aerosmith (although not a fan)
Cheap Trick
Warrior Soul

.......drawing a blank......

That is a damn good list there.  I agree with you on Led Zeppelin, if they aren't #1 then they are a very close #2

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That is a damn good list there.  I agree with you on Led Zeppelin, if they aren't #1 then they are a very close #2

those are the bands that I like to listen to, but aerosmith I had to put on for the wife....

notice I didn't put on

the stones
greatful dead
beatles
kiss
acdc

cant stand any of these bands, I feel they are very over rated.

but I do like a few songs from them.

[kilo2]

Except Heart and DIO.

Always have thought DIO was overrated.

[Masherbrum]

Dio was a legend.    A true class act that would make sure every fan of his wasn't missed when signing things outside of venues.    

[Hajo]

Beatles = Great Marketing and Publicity.

Their Music....another story.  To long and boring to go into.

[TequilaChaser]

no Allman Brothers, Ink?

or  the Band  or Bob Seger or George Thurogood  or Eagles


just curious........  you must be a Jimmy Page  fan, you listed like 3 or so  bands he was in including Zepplin........ ( same with Clapton )

I don't like much by Sanatana...... I think Neil  was a much better player although you can still here lil bits of Carlos in his music, he grew above and beyond being a one sound pony, like Carlos is....  if Carlos Santana is playing on a song you instantly can recognize it.....

now John Sykes.... there is a guitar Player.....  like Zakk wyldes  Pride & Glory --- that album goes from one extreme to the other and is all great.....

but everyone is different, we all like different genres and styles.....   old Kiss with Ace & Peter  was fantastic............... I don't care much for them though after around 1983  they went commercialized..

Clapton & Page back in the Yardbirds......... awesomese  before Led Zepplin was even a mind thought.......

interesting thread here......

TC

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no Allman Brothers, Ink?

or  the Band  or Bob Seger or George Thurogood  or Eagles


just curious........  you must be a Jimmy Page  fan, you listed like 3 or so  bands he was in including Zepplin........ ( same with Clapton )

I don't like much by Sanatana...... I think Neil  was a much better player although you can still here lil bits of Carlos in his music, he grew above and beyond being a one sound pony, like Carlos is....  if Carlos Santana is playing on a song you instantly can recognize it.....

now John Sykes.... there is a guitar Player.....  like Zakk wyldes  Pride & Glory --- that album goes from one extreme to the other and is all great.....

but everyone is different, we all like different genres and styles.....   old Kiss with Ace & Peter  was fantastic............... I don't care much for them though after around 1983  they went commercialized..

Clapton & Page back in the Yardbirds......... awesomese  before Led Zepplin was even a mind thought.......

interesting thread here......

TC

ya I like the Allman brothers and everyone else you mention.......after I posted a bunch more came to mind...but I figure I got my point across.

except for KISS they are so bad....yes some of the earlier members were good musicians. and some of that stuff didn't suk as bad as the rest....

dont forget Jeff Beck...some say that the three never played together at the same time, but believe they would be wrong...jimmy played the bass. (supposedly while Beck and Clapton were in the band also)

[kilo2]

Blue Oyster Cult and Rush two awesome bands not on the list

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Blue Oyster Cult and Rush two awesome bands not on the list

yup..also forgot Nazareth