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Offline Karnak

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Re: PBY Please
« Reply #15 on: October 10, 2011, 01:30:05 PM »
The B5N2 serves a purpose in AH.  The C-47A serves a critical purpose.  The D3A1 serves a purpose.  The G4M1 serves a purpose.  The B-25C serves a purpose. The Ju88A-4 serves a purpose.  The SBD-5 serves a purpose.  The TBM-3 serves a purpose.

The PBY-5 would not serve a purpose in AH.  It has no significant scenario role and it has no MA role.  Only one flying boat would be MA competitive, and that one is not American.

I am fine with it being added eventually, but it needs to be a low priority.
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Re: PBY Please
« Reply #16 on: October 10, 2011, 01:35:19 PM »
As much as I would love to see the PBY in game (and I would), any time I look at the existing plane set I can't help but see more glaring holes than the omission of the PBY. 
My feelings as well (and my Dad was a Lt Commander pilot of a PBY in Philippines) The thing goes 180 mph for like 16 hours.....things which can't be exploited in AH
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Re: PBY Please
« Reply #17 on: October 10, 2011, 05:10:18 PM »
P = Patrol
B = Bomber
Y = Consolidated Aircraft Corp
(PBY)

now mind you depends which version of the PBY u refer to...because they are not all defenceless from what I've read only the earlier ones were defenceless PBY-1/PBY-3
PBY-4(is when it took on the name Catalina) and up had guns..

PBY-5A(Catalina)

width 104'
length 63.8'
height 20.18'

accommodation 9

hardpoints 2
 
empty weight 20,911lbs

max take off weight 35,422lbs

max speed 179mph

max range 2,545miles

rate of climb 526fpm(feet per minuet)

service ceiling 14,698ft

engines 2 Pratt&Whitney r-1830-92 14 cylinder twin wasp air cooled radial engines generating up to 1,200hp

armament
2x 7.62(possibly 50Cal's?)mm guns in bow turret
2x 7.62(possibly 50Cal's?)mm guns in fuselage blisters 1 in each side
1x 7.62mm gun in ventral tuneel section

(1 source says 50 Cal's one says 7.62 only variation I've found between sources)

bombload of up to 4,000lbs that includes 2x torpedoes,bombs,depth charges(they also work on surface ships) or anti ship mines(these are all very useable ords)

now from my general understanding if its got a bomb or a gun it can be put to use in any game situation heck people have even figured out uses for the pilot with a  .45
such as hiding in map room and shooting troops or sneaking up on a rearming plane on a de aked Field or sneaking up on a manned gun or tank and shooting the pintel off/trying to track it or just making a base flash to annoy the ppl

it may not be the best aircraft or the fastest but it would be better rounded then allot of things we currently have(if it can up from ports that's a +)

B5N is a decent plane... great for killing cruisers/gvs...that's about it not very fast burst into flames from smallest round but still gets used

d3a1 less flammable and forward facing guns(just as slow) but not enough bombs to do much damage

g4m1 more or less a giant b5n with a 20mm on the tail and 500 more lbs of ords and about 80mph faster

sbd forward facing 50 Cal's decent tail gun fair ords rather slow...

tbm takes forever to climb great on ords tail falls off easily and tops out at 240mph

ki-67 chews threw fuel very flammable rather fast and 20mm on the tail(ever want to be a rocket ship?)

point is except for the ki-67(only seen like 4 ever) most of these planes get flown frequently they all have major exploits and issues but ppl don't seem to focus on them more so then just do what they can with the plane and go for the target and try to get the job done more or lees ppl will find a use for it and depending on the model added it can serve in all arenas

and yes +1 for a PBY-4+(as the OP did not state which version)

side note im not a expert nor do i claim to be right thats just what searching yeilded







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Re: PBY Please
« Reply #18 on: October 10, 2011, 05:12:44 PM »

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Re: PBY Please
« Reply #19 on: October 10, 2011, 05:13:47 PM »
Eyeyeye  :noid :rofl

This was wished for so many times, why would HiTech want to create this when nobody would use it?
PBYs are basicly pretty nice targets aswell.

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Re: PBY Please
« Reply #20 on: October 11, 2011, 03:14:06 PM »
Heads-up everyone! New rule! In order for a plane to be eligible in Aces High, it now has to (in addition to squad strength and used in aggression):

Fly FASTER than 200MPH INDICATED

AND

It HAS to have a purpose OTHER than to just give a free kill.

Please FWD this memo to everyone in the wishlist! Thanks!
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Re: PBY Please
« Reply #21 on: October 11, 2011, 03:19:29 PM »
WE MUST take the D3A1 out and B5N out THEN YOUR RIGHT! NO ONE USES THEM

Nobody uses them? Well, their torpedos are quicker than the ones that the U.S. has, I think we should keep it. However yes both planes do horribly.

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Re: PBY Please
« Reply #22 on: October 11, 2011, 04:15:19 PM »
:rofl

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Re: PBY Please
« Reply #23 on: October 11, 2011, 07:03:22 PM »
:rofl

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Re: PBY Please
« Reply #24 on: October 14, 2011, 06:59:02 AM »
Thank you stabbyy, well put. And as far as noone would use it...I'm not too sure about that
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Re: PBY Please
« Reply #25 on: October 14, 2011, 07:46:03 AM »
Recce planes in general don't seem to have much of a role in AH. Shame really.
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Re: PBY Please
« Reply #26 on: October 14, 2011, 10:13:15 AM »
The B5N2 serves a purpose in AH.  The C-47A serves a critical purpose.  The D3A1 serves a purpose.  The G4M1 serves a purpose.  The B-25C serves a purpose. The Ju88A-4 serves a purpose.  The SBD-5 serves a purpose.  The TBM-3 serves a purpose.

The PBY-5 would not serve a purpose in AH.  It has no significant scenario role and it has no MA role.  Only one flying boat would be MA competitive, and that one is not American.

I am fine with it being added eventually, but it needs to be a low priority.
It would be useful in the AvA for Pacific setups which have fleet-attacking objectives.

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Re: PBY Please
« Reply #27 on: October 14, 2011, 11:47:02 AM »
It would be useful in the AvA for Pacific setups which have fleet-attacking objectives.

sure people love flying in scenarios in a plane that can basically just fly around.  I mean I would love to fly for 2 plus hours just to do, well nothing.  i am pretty sure all the other airplanes are gonna be sitting in the ground waiting for the  pby to find "something"  at the lightspeed of zero.



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Re: PBY Please
« Reply #28 on: October 14, 2011, 01:06:36 PM »
sure people love flying in scenarios in a plane that can basically just fly around.  I mean I would love to fly for 2 plus hours just to do, well nothing.  i am pretty sure all the other airplanes are gonna be sitting in the ground waiting for the  pby to find "something"  at the lightspeed of zero.



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Especially when using a bomber like a B-24 or B-17 would be more effective and would also be accurate as B-24s and B-17s were used quite frequently as a patrol/scout plane in the South Pacific. 

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Re: PBY Please
« Reply #29 on: October 14, 2011, 01:36:20 PM »
So by my read on the situation, the only quasi-useful thing it could do in game that couldn't be fulfilled better by pretty much any other plane in the set is... torpedo duty?

I wonder if there's a stat for how many torpedos are used in the MA over a month?

I also wonder if it is a one digit, or two digit number?

Many, many other more useful aircraft could be added.  If you want to scout at ~180 mph might I suggest upping a C47?

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