The Spitfire XIV Q

[Karnak]

L has hydraulically boosted ailerons, all the other model's can't roll at that speed.

Yup, and what percentage of P-38s in the MA are L models do you think?

[MachFly]

Yup, and what percentage of P-38s in the MA are L models do you think?

Given that AKAK flies 90% of P-38s in MA than I'd say most are Js.  


What good is L's high speed roll rate when it wont be able to pull out of a dive?

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152 can only BnZ......

you think so?

I have a feeling I can find someone who will out right smoke most anyone in a stall fight, against ANY plane, in the weeds, in a 152.

although I think its a m00t point.........

[Plazus]

Given that AKAK flies 90% of P-38s in MA than I'd say most are Js.  


What good is L's high speed roll rate when it wont be able to pull out of a dive?

A P38L can pull out of a dive just as well as the J or G. I'll give you a hint: it's not just the dive brakes that does the trick.

[MachFly]

A P38L can pull out of a dive just as well as the J or G. I'll give you a hint: it's not just the dive brakes that does the trick.

It can be done, but it's a lot harder than most other planes.

[MachFly]

you think so?

I have a feeling I can find someone who will out right smoke most anyone in a stall fight, against ANY plane, in the weeds, in a 152.

although I think its a m00t point.........

I never said no one can't dogfight, I said the plane is for BnZing. Just like AKAK dogfights in P-38s, it's not a dogfighter yet he does it.

[Wiley]

The 38 lockup is no more difficult to get out of than any of the P47s when they overspeed.  If anything the 38 slows down a little easier when you chop throttle in my experience.

Wiley.

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I never said no one can't dogfight, I said the plane is for BnZing. Just like AKAK dogfights in P-38s, it's not a dogfighter yet he does it.

no you said..."152 can only Bnz..." that is what you said.

and that is very wrong.

and for the record AKAK picks then climbs back up to his perch..... and runs when he don't have or loses advantage.  shoulda used a better example then AKAK


Guppy now there is a guy that will "dog fight" in a 38

[MachFly]

no you said..."152 can only Bnz..." that is what you said.

and that is very wrong.

and for the record AKAK picks then climbs back up to his perch..... and runs when he don't have or loses advantage.  shoulda used a better example then AKAK

Yeah but you know what I mean.

[Plazus]

It can be done, but it's a lot harder than most other planes.

Actually pulling out of a dive in a P38 is quite easy. It just takes a certain amount of common sense to be able to do it.

I never said no one can't dogfight, I said the plane is for BnZing. Just like AKAK dogfights in P-38s, it's not a dogfighter yet he does it.

There are many historical records and pilot accounts that will prove your point incorrect about the P38. I am not an allied pro-elitist P38 fanboy, but I certainly am aware that P38s are more than capable of dogfighting.

[MachFly]

Actually pulling out of a dive in a P38 is quite easy. It just takes a certain amount of common sense to be able to do it.

There are many historical records and pilot accounts that will prove your point incorrect about the P38. I am not an allied pro-elitist P38 fanboy, but I certainly am aware that P38s are more than capable of dogfighting.

It's a lot easier to do in every other plane.

There is a reason all other fighters have a single engine.

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Yeah but you know what I mean.

no I didn't

not on ether of those comments ...you made no sense at all...sorry man

[Plazus]

It's a lot easier to do in every other plane.

So with this said, an A6M2 will just blow the P38 away in a dive simply because P38s are difficult aircraft to dive in? I'd like you to test that theory out.

There is a reason all other fighter has a single engine.

Is that so? Please enlighten me.

But you are probably right anyways since P38s are actually designed to be twin-engined light bombers that suck in everything related to air-to-air combat. After all, they do use a yoke instead of a stick...

[MachFly]

So with this said, an A6M2 will just blow the P38 away in a dive simply because P38s are difficult aircraft to dive in? I'd like you to test that theory out.

Zero sucks in a dive even more. Compare P-38s diving ability with Spitfire, P-51, F4U, 190, ect...

You know how to kill P-38s when they are on your six? Enter a dive and have him follow you, than pull out and watch him crash.

BTW in AH you can pull the 38 out of a dive with trim, because for some reason trim is immune to compression effects. This needs to be fixed.

[MachFly]

no I didn't

not on ether of those comments ...you made no sense at all...sorry man

If the pilot is good he can dogfight a goon and win, but he'll go a much better job doing it in a Spitfire (or any other fighter than can dogfight).