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Final Round of the plane vote
« on: October 26, 2011, 09:21:08 AM »
Round 3 has ended with the Meteor being eliminated.  The final round is now underway with the Me 410 vs the Yak 3.  Voting will end Monday morning Oct 31.

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Re: Final Round of the plane vote
« Reply #1 on: October 26, 2011, 09:22:06 AM »
lol
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Re: Final Round of the plane vote
« Reply #2 on: October 26, 2011, 09:22:56 AM »
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Re: Final Round of the plane vote
« Reply #3 on: October 26, 2011, 09:26:54 AM »
WOOOOTTT!!! Eat it jet jockies  :devil

voting Yak in hopes that we get the 9U and 9T remodeled with it.  :pray
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Re: Final Round of the plane vote
« Reply #4 on: October 26, 2011, 09:29:51 AM »
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Re: Final Round of the plane vote
« Reply #5 on: October 26, 2011, 09:34:46 AM »
Woohooo
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Re: Final Round of the plane vote
« Reply #6 on: October 26, 2011, 09:37:36 AM »
Lol
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Re: Final Round of the plane vote
« Reply #7 on: October 26, 2011, 09:43:07 AM »
Round 3 has ended with the Meteor being eliminated. 

Outstanding news!

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Re: Final Round of the plane vote
« Reply #8 on: October 26, 2011, 09:48:39 AM »
 :huh  :x

Wow.  I'm very happy to be wrong today.

Heh... my reverse psychology gambit worked...  The more stridently I predicted it, the more the universe moved against me to prove me wrong.  Wiley wins again!  :devil

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Re: Final Round of the plane vote
« Reply #9 on: October 26, 2011, 09:52:41 AM »
Best news of the day by far. Now its going to be a great battle between the yak and the 410. And I will vote 410.
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Re: Final Round of the plane vote
« Reply #10 on: October 26, 2011, 09:54:58 AM »
WOOT!!!  most excellent news
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Re: Final Round of the plane vote
« Reply #11 on: October 26, 2011, 09:56:33 AM »
oh well, back to dueling 262's!

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Re: Final Round of the plane vote
« Reply #12 on: October 26, 2011, 09:58:31 AM »
allright!

which one now?

General characteristics

YAK 3

 Length: 8.5 m (27 ft 10 in)
 Wingspan: 9.2 m (30 ft 2 in)
 Height: 2.39 m (7 ft 11 in)
 Wing area: 14.85 m² (159.8 ft²)
 Empty weight: 2,105 kg (4,640 lb)
 Loaded weight: 2,692 kg (5,864 lb)
 Powerplant: 1 × Klimov VK-105PF-2 V-12 liquid-cooled piston engine, 970 kW (1,300 hp)
 
Performance
 Maximum speed: 655 km/h (407 mph)
 Range: 650 km (405 miles)
 Service ceiling: 10,700 m (35,000 ft)
 Rate of climb: 18.5 m/s (3,645 ft/min)
 Wing loading: 181 kg/m² (36.7 lb/ft²)
 Power/mass: 0.36 kW/kg (0.22 hp/lb)
 
Armament

 Guns:
 1 × 20 mm ShVAK cannon,
 2 × 12.7 mm Berezin UBS machine guns

or

ME 410



General characteristics
 Crew: 2 (pilot and gunner)
 Length: 12.56 m (41.2 ft)
 Wingspan: 16.34 m (53.6 ft 7 in)
 Height: 3.7 m (12,14 ft)
 Wing area: 36.20 m² (390 ft²)
 Empty weight: 6,627 kg (14,597 lb)
 Max takeoff weight: 11,244 kg (24,766 lb)
 Powerplant: 2 × Daimler-Benz DB 603A liquid-cooled V12 engine, 1,750 PS (1,726 hp, 1,287 kW) each
 
Performance
 Maximum speed: 624 km/h (388 mph)
 Range: 2,300 km (1,400 mi) combat
 Service ceiling: 10,000 m (32,800 ft)
 
Armament

 Guns:
 2 × 7.92 mm (.312 in) MG 17 machine guns with 1,000 rpg, firing forward
 4 × 20 mm MG 151/20 cannons with 350 rpg, firing forward
 2 × 13 mm (.51 in) MG 131 machine guns with 500 rpg, each firing rearward from FDSL 131/1B remote-operated turret, one per side
 
Bombs: up to 1,000 kg (2,204 lb) of disposable stores

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Re: Final Round of the plane vote
« Reply #13 on: October 26, 2011, 10:06:45 AM »
I've got to vote Me-410. Both would be great adds to the game. My thoughts are around SECs, scenarios, snapshots, etc. It may be fair to say that we are dealing with Western European bias but most of the organized scenarios involve Allied versus German planes. The Me-410 will make an excellent addition to high altitude B-17 and B-24 intercepts.

Imagine how we could have modified Battle Over Germany if we had the Me-410 planeset. BOG was a 7 frame epic scenario with Me-110s engaging in the first two frames only. With the Me-410 we could more accurately follow history by keeping this focused buff killer longer. True, it remains disadvantaged against P-47s and P-51Ds though this bird takes buff hunting well into late war scenarios.

The Yak-3 would make an excellent opponent though we rarely have scenarios involving Soviet aircraft. Some might say that is due to a lack of Soviet planesets and adding the Yak-3 helps change that deficiency. I think the reverse is true in that the battles over Eastern Europe were much more about TAS and did not involve 1,000+ birds engaging in epic battles to save or destroy a city. Maybe we should have more TAS scenarios involving tanks and close air support, which would accurately reflect the airwar on the Eastern Front, but until then the Me-410 takes Aces High further.

Just my opinion.

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Re: Final Round of the plane vote
« Reply #14 on: October 26, 2011, 10:16:01 AM »
the BIG question is, what specs would be used for either plane? earliest production build? most produced version?
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