Should A20 loose it's F3 mode

[Chilli]

Is the A20 any different from the iL2, when it comes to the amount of dogfighting (both in RL and in AH2)?  Remarkably maneuverable in high G turns, crazy amount of ammo and basically already a preferred tool for bombing ground vehicles.  Why should it retain the F3 mode while iL2 with equally crappy F1 mode views?

[lyric1]

Is the A20 any different from the iL2, when it comes to the amount of dogfighting (both in RL and in AH2)?  Remarkably maneuverable in high G turns, crazy amount of ammo and basically already a preferred tool for bombing ground vehicles.  Why should it retain the F3 mode while iL2 with equally crappy F1 mode views?

When the remodel comes & the ventral gun is added I think F3 will be removed.

[Krusty]

If it gets the ventral gun it would actually have an argument for F3!

I think it's used as a fighter by a select few in F3 mode, sure....

It's not nearly as pervasively mis-used as the IL2 was, though. If you want to make an argument for it, sure, but it's not keeping anybody awake at night like the Sturmi was.

[slimmer]

i agree no F3 mode

[Ack-Ack]

The Boston should retain F3 mode.

ack-ack

[lyric1]

The Boston should retain F3 mode.

ack-ack

? Why just the Boston for formations?

[Brooke]

I think no planes should have f3 mode.  People can look around by going to different gunner positions and get only the view physically available to people in the actual aircraft.

[AKP]

Sounds like someone got killed by an A20 again... and here we go again.  This horse has been beat to death enough.   

[cobia38]

 i,ll see your F3 and raise you quad 20 mm 

[Raptor05121]

I think no planes should have f3 mode.  People can look around by going to different gunner positions and get only the view physically available to people in the actual aircraft.

yeah, you can have the F3 mode removed the same day HT institutes a full crew of gunners to replace it

[Big Rat]

Is it really that hard to kill an A20, it isn't like it can energy fight for very long.  There's only a few that are really good at dogfighting one anyway and those that are good at it, I doubt any use F3.  I can't dogfight in F3 with it, Cobia can you?, Snaphook can you?  The advantage of F3 in an IL2 isn't the ability to dogfight, it's the greater SA that it gives, that and finding GV's.  Is this unreasonable for the A20 to have F3? well think of it this way, if you have multiple crew, you have multiple sets of eyes, you can't model every set of eyes in the crew similtaneously, so we have F3.  Turning the guns off in F3 mode I can agree with however.

 
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[Ruah]

I think no planes should have f3 mode.  People can look around by going to different gunner positions and get only the view physically available to people in the actual aircraft.

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F3 mode is bad for all planes including bombers.

My problem when flying against the A20 is that it takes 50 20mm to kill it.  But I never consider it a threat except to my ammo count.

[FBCrabby]

IF by some retarded chance we get the quad-20mm A20 model - then F3 mode should be sent to hell

unless you perk it 

[Brooke]

yeah, you can have the F3 mode removed the same day HT institutes a full crew of gunners to replace it

It only takes two movements of the finger to go from pilot position to gunner and back.  I never felt that it was at all difficult or slow.

[guncrasher]

It only takes two movements of the finger to go from pilot position to gunner and back.  I never felt that it was at all difficult or slow.

just give it the same visibility as all the fighters, then no f3.


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