Author Topic: 109 flap deployment speed  (Read 3901 times)

Offline STEELE

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Re: 109 flap deployment speed
« Reply #60 on: November 25, 2011, 07:55:37 PM »
Some preferred a a low turning combat with a high speed cover, and some did not. Some preferred engaging at a superior speed and make a quick kill, such as Rall, who was a superb shot, but at a very high speed, dropping flaps is slower, the time for it will also be less, and slat reaction much more violent. Which is my point. It needs a special condition to release a hand for cranking a wheel, - generally a condition not preferred by 109 tacticians
And Marseilles, who was an even better shot, and always used flaps at high speeds for deflection shooting
whichever way you look at it, you can't base the in game flight modelling on a bunch of often contradictory anecdotal evidence *shrug*
True, one should go by charts, such as the ones posted a few pages back     :aok
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Offline IrishOne

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Re: 109 flap deployment speed
« Reply #61 on: November 26, 2011, 09:47:47 PM »
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Offline ScottyK

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Re: 109 flap deployment speed
« Reply #62 on: November 26, 2011, 10:17:42 PM »
 (thinking out loud)  In the P47s u can put 1 notch of flap out at what 330-300mph?  are there any cases/documentation in which they actually did in combat situations and  were the flaps designed to come out that fast? What i am getting at, is couldnt the 109s flaps work in the same mannor even though they might not have been designed to.

 this probably doesnt make sense to most, i couldnt think of a way to word it better. (probably shouldnt have typed it) sooo, let the bashing begin on that note.   
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Re: 109 flap deployment speed
« Reply #63 on: November 27, 2011, 09:57:22 AM »
that is an awesome pic  :aok

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Offline Angus

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Re: 109 flap deployment speed
« Reply #64 on: December 09, 2011, 11:33:43 AM »
Steele, Marseilles dropped speed and flaps for bat turning inside faster aircraft and shooting them at very close range.
Rall considered Marseille the best shot of WW2, while the German Fliegergemeinshaft consider Rall as the best one of the Luftwaffe, since he did hard deflection shots at very high speeds, and sometimes at quite some range.
My source, - Rall, eye to eye while sharing a meal of salmon bread, and then Willy Göbel (Ret. Col.) of the German Fliegergemeinschaft while looking through his book archive.
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Anyway, if anyone has more on Marseille, I am always curious.
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