Sadly this thread has been hijacked so many times I think even the OP lost track. That's supposed to be a big no-no.
Sad again is that in all this talk of the horde, no one has addressed exactly how to stop the hoards from ever upping or how to smash them before they can law waste to a base and take it and then horde again ad infinitum. Please read:
Two basic kind of air hoarders, the hey--let's furball the base next door and maybe take it, or, the pre-planned 15-25 bombers with full uber-ride escorts.
Who will not help you stop the hoarde: squeekers, new players, score potatos, spawn campers, furballers, stoners, ego-freaks, and everyone else who thinks that saving their own butt is far more important than your side getting it's cheeks handed to you and losing all your capturable bases. That leaves:
Who will help you stop the hoarde: the small handful of people not included in the above list and those players, on many days USA primetime, wouldn't fill a three seat carnival ride, but if you put it out on green your porking you might get lucky. Like winning more than $500 with a lotto scratch off kind of lucky. THE most important part to remember is that ordnance bunkers are probably one of the weakest things on the field and can easily be droped with a quick strafing run of 50 cals or faster yet with 20mm cannon. They blow up easily and if there is no gv spawn at that base it takes quite a while to come back unsupplied. Dropping ords is a piece of cake and anyone can do it. Including n00bs.
How to keep the hoard from even starting: not exactly rocket science. Simply drop the enemy ordinance bunkers 2 to 3 bases deep along the entire front of the enemy that hoardes you the most. There is not one side in this game that will even bother to hoarde without bombs. Sure you could go drop troops everwhere but it's too time consuming.On small maps a squad of 7-10 guys can keep this accomplished without help. On large maps it's almost impossible, so pork the front two rows of bases and watch for the organized hoarde to up from one of the third row back bases where the organized hoardes usually up from anyway.
If people hate hoardes then take the hoarde's bombs away. If you are not willing to do this simple task then you have no right to gripe. You could easily been part of the solution.
How to destroy the organized mission hoarde once it ups: This is easier yet. Watch the map. If you can't keep an eye on the enemies 2nd and 3rd row back from the front bases where the organized hoarde's come from then you deserve to get hoarded. Simple. A base that two minutes before was no red dar bar now has a full dar bar. Mission upping and grabbing to get to alt before heading to the base they want to hoard. Always assume that they not only have 2 to 3 goons with them somewhere but that there is most likely one or two goons snuck in and already landed just outside the radar ring on a flat somewhere.
Once you see that big huge red darbar grab your cannon laden ride of choice and start grabbing at an angle toward the big full darbar...take your time, they are grabbing too. If you have buddies with lots of perkies, the 262 is a great ride or you can pick off the escorts from a nice higher cherrypick perch in a yak, 109K or even another pony. Most organized missions have rules about no chasing below 10K and others want the top deck to be 20K, but that's a falacy. It's been noted that 25K is standard and 30K not unheard of. In a 190D you can blow past the escorts in a blink of an eye and start chewing up the bombers. Every bomber you send down in flames is another bomber that won't unload it's ords on the hordling's choice base. It also makes that box of bombers that much more vulnerable for other hordling hunters. Hit them before they can even get to the dar ring is even better but when their eyes are in the bombsite they are blind and dependant on escorts and other hoarde bombers to check six them..
The more guys you can get to go with you for hoardebusting the better and more kills for everybody. Tis is the part that 95% of players never get. You have just as much chance of blowing by their escorts and getting kills as their escorts do. Come in from higher than the escorts. You will have all the E you need and escorts cant pull E out of their backsides to counter you. YOU have the advantage in this kind of fight not them. The more players you can rally to chew up the bombers the better. Once the bombers are dead the escorts are out of a job. Get as many buddies together and have fun stomping the horde into the ground instead of vice versa.
It's up to you.
