StuG III Ausf G.

[skorpion]

Yes its that time of the month again! time to request the StuG III Ausf G! 

Basic info-

(Sd.Kfz. 142/1; December 1942– April 1945, 7,720 produced, 173 converted from Pz.Kpfw. III chassis): The final and by far the most common of the StuG series. The Ausf. G used the hull of the Pz.Kpfw. III Ausf. M. Upper superstructure was widened: welded boxes on either sides were abandoned. This new superstructure design increased its height to 2160mm. Backside wall of the fighting compartment got straightened, and ventilation fan on top of the superstructure was relocated to the back of fighting compartment. From March 1943, driver's periscope was abandoned. From May 1943, side hull skirts (schurzen) were fitted to G models for added armor protection particularly against anti-tank rifles. Side skirts were retro-fitted to some Ausf. F/8 models, as they were be fitted to all front line StuGs and other tanks by June 1943 in preparation for the battle of Kursk. Mountings for side skirts proved inadequate, many were lost in the field. From March 1944, improved mounting was introduced, as a result side skirts are seen more often with late model Ausf G.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sturmgesch%C3%BCtz_III
Armor-
80mm Frontal
50mm Side
30mm Rear

Armament-
1x 75mm StuK 40 L/43 Main gun (optional with the StuK 37 L/24 short barrel cannon)
1x 7.92mm hull machine gun MG34

Total # of StuG III's produced-10,619 (all variants)



And now...time for a delicious pic.

[MachFly]

 

Your not Bar.

[skorpion]

Your not Bar.

yes, i know that.

Once a month isnt bad....maybe. but me likey, so me wishey! even if wishey is constantly!

[SmokinLoon]

It is a legit request/wish seeing as how the StuG III did play a massive role in Germany's panzer divisions.  However, I'm not sure if it would be the better choice for introducing a turret-less tank/tank destroyer/assault gun in to the fray.  The Su-100 might be a better choice for experimentation purposes.  Besides we already have the chassis of the Su-100 in game (T34).  The StuG III would have to built ground up, save for the 75mm L/43 gun.

[skorpion]

It is a legit request/wish seeing as how the StuG III did play a massive role in Germany's panzer divisions.  However, I'm not sure if it would be the better choice for introducing a turret-less tank/tank destroyer/assault gun in to the fray.  The Su-100 might be a better choice for experimentation purposes.  Besides we already have the chassis of the Su-100 in game (T34).  The StuG III would have to built ground up, save for the 75mm L/43 gun.

the StuG III wouldnt be that hard, HTC already has a somewhat relative chassis to it (PzIV tank) they would only need to change some things and just slap on the 75mm. the SU-100 would need the turret removed from the T34, new suspension and engine added and they would have to throw the 100mm on it. pretty much the same amount of work as the StuG III Ausf G. both of which are good tanks for the game. i got nothing against it, but i think the StuG should be added first, given its history and the time it entered.

[titanic3]

Add the 105mm Howitzer as an option and it might see actual use in the MA as a town killer. Otherwise, up a Panzer IV and don't use the turret.

[skorpion]

Add the 105mm Howitzer as an option and it might see actual use in the MA as a town killer. Otherwise, up a Panzer IV and don't use the turret.

the 105mm Howitzer was american...whats a german tank doing with a 105mm howitzer from america?

[titanic3]

105mm Stuh 42 L/28 Assault Gun - replaced the 75mm. HE rounds, higher arc, slower traveling time, more or less an artillery piece.

~1,200 were produced
Range of ~9000 yards.

I can see it's use.

[skorpion]

105mm Stuh 42 L/28 Assault Gun - replaced the 75mm. HE rounds, higher arc, slower traveling time, more or less an artillery piece.

the 105mm StuH 42 didnt replace the 75mm 40 L/43. different variants of the StuG were fitted with them, they produced both variants. neither of those guns replaced the other.

[titanic3]

So what do you call it when you take out one gun and put another in its *place*?

Different variants? Yea.
Replaced? Yea.

I see no points of having the Stug with just a 75mm, it adds nothing and the Panzer IV does everything it can do and better. The Stuh 42 can actually be a real good town killer/base porker. Better armor, and longer range than the LVT4.

[Tank-Ace]

Replaced also carries the implication that the 105mm was found to be a superior gun, and so the 75mm versions were either phased out of service, or had production cancled in favor of the 105mm armed version.

Really, it can be taken to mean either, but here, Skorpion took it to mean that you thought the 105mm armed Sturmgeschütz replaced production of the 75mm armed Sturmgeschütz.



Either way +1. But if a proof of concept vehicle is needed beyond the M3 75mm GMC, we could get the SdKfz 251/22. Just an SdKfz 251 with a PaK 40 mounted on top, carried 27 rounds IIRC. Only reason this would be a better demonstration that a limited-traverse AFV could work would be that it has a more powerful anti-tank cannon, capable of effectivly engaging any tank in the game, and its speed is closer to that of the German Jagdpanzers, or Hunting-tanks.

[titanic3]

Replaced implys that the 105mm was found to be a superior gun, and so the 75mm versions were either phased out of service, or had production cancled in favor of the 105mm armed version.

Replace - to take the place of; to substitute; to put back

From dictionary.com

The 105mm L/28 *took the place of* the 75mm.
The Stug III and the Stuh 42 are two *similar* tanks. But are differently armed.
The Stuh 42 did not replace the Stug III.

Did that clear it up for everyone? Jeez Louise.

[SmokinLoon]

the StuG III wouldnt be that hard, HTC already has a somewhat relative chassis to it (PzIV tank) they would only need to change some things and just slap on the 75mm. the SU-100 would need the turret removed from the T34, new suspension and engine added and they would have to throw the 100mm on it. pretty much the same amount of work as the StuG III Ausf G. both of which are good tanks for the game. i got nothing against it, but i think the StuG should be added first, given its history and the time it entered.

Not quite.    The Stug III is on the Panzer III chassis which is not represented in AH currently in the least bit, it would have to be designed from pixel #1.  Like I said in my first post, the *only* thing HTC could bring over would be the 75mm L43 gun (and the MG34 if they model that version), that is it.  The Su-100 uses the exact same T34 chassis we currently have in game.  HTC could take the tracks, engine, armor, basically the entire lower assembly and put a new upper half on it. They'd have to design the upper half and the 100mm D-10S L/54 gun and *puuf* it is done.  There would be far fewer steps for the Su-100 in to play than the StuG III. 

[EskimoJoe]

Not quite.    The Stug III is on the Panzer III chassis which is not represented in AH currently in the least bit, it would have to be designed from pixel #1.  Like I said in my first post, the *only* thing HTC could bring over would be the 75mm L43 gun (and the MG34 if they model that version), that is it.  The Su-100 uses the exact same T34 chassis we currently have in game.  HTC could take the tracks, engine, armor, basically the entire lower assembly and put a new upper half on it. They'd have to design the upper half and the 100mm D-10S L/54 gun and *puuf* it is done.  There would be far fewer steps for the Su-100 in to play than the StuG III.  

The flaw with that is the old T-34/76 model isn't up to standards.

There would be no borrowing anything from it.

[phatzo]

Su-100 is on a t-34/85 chassis, just sayin.