Real Life Zombies in Russia

[Lusche]

Hmm ok, interesting.

Would you agree that addictive personalities don't have to concern just negative addicitions?

A reluctant "yes", because right now I'm wondering how to define "addictive personality"

[mechanic]

people who become addicted to anything more easily than the average personality does

[Lusche]

people who become addicted to anything more easily than the average personality does

But that could be for very different reasons, I think.
I just know what type of personality I am and why I could have been a victim of drugs... 

[skittish]

We've all seen the picture of the flesh coming off the arm.  Sorry for taking the low road. Drug addiction is a serious subject but the caption should read. "Captain Hook Will Lose Arm To Krocadile"

[GNucks]

We've all seen the picture of the flesh coming off the arm.  Sorry for taking the low road. Drug addiction is a serious subject but the caption should read. "Captain Hook Will Lose Arm To Krocadile"

F*** PC, that's funny as hell  

[RoGenT]

Graphic yes, but hopefully anyone who sees the effects, especially teenagers, will be scared off from any thoughts of doing any type of drug.

I personally have no pity for those people in the video (I saw it on youtube) because they made the choice to do drugs in the first place.

[Lusche]

Graphic yes, but hopefully anyone who sees the effects, especially teenagers, will be scared off from any thoughts of doing any type of drug.

I personally have no pity for those people in the video (I saw it on youtube) because they made the choice to do drugs in the first place.

From my own experience in life, choice is often more limited than it seems when looking at it from outside. And a simple wrong action can end you up in a big mess years later.
A human being is rotting away alive. That's a pitiful thing in itself, no matter what.


And the daunting effects on teenagers... dunno. 
In the 5th grade we had been enlightened about the dangers of smoking. Very detailed. Films, pictures, texts, some of them very graphic. Scientific explanations and evidence, and we had been enlightened about group dynamics and peer pressure. And we did understand it.
All of us agreed how stupid smoking is, from a financial and health point of view. Everybody was convinced he would never start smoking.

Four years later more than half of us did smoke. 
 

[warhed]

Graphic yes, but hopefully anyone who sees the effects, especially teenagers, will be scared off from any thoughts of doing any type of drug.

I personally have no pity for those people in the video (I saw it on youtube) because they made the choice to do drugs in the first place.

Just remember the parents who probably made the choice to have kids in a situation they shouldn't have.  Most likely the parents were drug addicts or alcoholics in the prime of their using, they probably were born addicts to a substance before they even had a choice to make.  The children probably weren't raised with a mother and father, ones who could at least raise them how a child needs to be.  
I agree though, once you turn into an adult, you don't get to blame your past anymore.  But we could go a long way to solving alcohol and drug addiction if we started coming down REAL hard on parents not raising their children.  Having the addiction gene is not a guarantee of addition, it makes it much more likely, but it is not certain.  The common truth in almost all addicts however, is their childhood, and how they are raised.  Shocking I know, if you don't properly raise your children, they don't grow into a proper human being.

I just saw on TV a few days ago, a woman addicted to meth in prison, who had 9 children.  Literally most of those children were in prison already, most addicted to meth as well.  And guess what, she was pregnant with another child.  And this is all perfectly legal.  You can't build an addition on to your house with house without sticking your head up 3 or 4 separate government entities' rear-ends, but you can have as many children as you want, regardless if you're capable of raising them.

And Lusche, you hit the nail on the head with genetics.  The alcohol gene has been proven to be a factor of quite a few genes, all adding their little touch.  

Addiction is pretty easy to define, doing something that has negative consequences, and not stopping even after those consequences start negatively affecting your life.  

Here's a little website that makes it pretty clear cut as to what's going on in the brain:  http://learn.genetics.utah.edu/content/addiction/ and http://learn.genetics.utah.edu/content/addiction/genetics/

[ink]

I have a very addictive personality....had an extremely difficult life growing up,  I would NEVER touch that stuff...would not even contemplate it.

[warhed]

I have a very addictive personality....had an extremely difficult life growing up,  I would NEVER touch that stuff...would not even contemplate it.

I would imagine even most drug addicts would be scared by that stuff.  Although, I still say meth is worse

[ink]

I would imagine even most drug addicts would be scared by that stuff.  Although, I still say meth is worse

ya meth is bad, but I cant see it being "worse" then that stuff, I have seen the worst of meth/heroin and it don't come near whats in that video.

but I wont do meth or Heroin ether. although I have done both. many many years ago.

[lyric1]

Well learned something new today.

Rather I didn't now.

[warhed]

ya meth is bad, but I cant see it being "worse" then that stuff, I have seen the worst of meth/heroin and it don't come near whats in that video.

but I wont do meth or Heroin ether. although I have done both. many many years ago.

Let's go ask BiPolar, I bet he has experience with both 

[Tank-Ace]

I wonder, is our body's main directive to reproduce whatever the cost, regardless of if doing so is harmfull to the species (and if it can recognize when doing so WOULD be harmfull to the survival of the species), or if our body's main directive is to ensure the survival of the species through whatever means is both most effective and available.

That is to say, do our bodies recognize behavior that, while not resulting in reproducion, is helpfull to the species as a whole, and reward us with some dopeamine?

Or are bodies unable to differentiate between simply ensuring there is another generation, and what is infact helpfull to the species.



For example, almost everybody in our society survives to have the opportunity to reproduce, regardless of the fact that they would have died before having the chance because of something self-inflicted by their own stupid actions. That means our idiot ratio will continue to grow, as its often the idiots that over-reproduce, even if they don't have the means to support their offpsring.

Could the females develop an instinct to avoid such males, which would result in them being excluded from the gene pool?

[warhed]

I wonder, is our body's main directive to reproduce whatever the cost, regardless of if doing so is harmfull to the species (and if it can recognize when doing so WOULD be harmfull to the survival of the species), or if our body's main directive is to ensure the survival of the species through whatever means is both most effective and available.

That is to say, do our bodies recognize behavior that, while not resulting in reproducion, is helpfull to the species as a whole, and reward us with some dopeamine?

Or are bodies unable to differentiate between simply ensuring there is another generation, and what is infact helpfull to the species.



For example, almost everybody in our society survives to have the opportunity to reproduce, regardless of the fact that they would have died before having the chance because of something self-inflicted by their own stupid actions. That means our idiot ratio will continue to grow, as its often the idiots that over-reproduce, even if they don't have the means to support their offpsring.

Could the females develop an instinct to avoid such males, which would result in them being excluded from the gene pool?

The problem is, as a species, we're doing good.  Stupid people are breeding faster and faster, they're out-breeding the people we want having kids.  But that isn't bad for the species, just bad for us who have to live with them