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Re: Categorize B26 As "Attack"
« Reply #30 on: November 28, 2011, 11:28:31 PM »
If selecting bomber/attack or fighter/attacker only affects which category your score counts towards (fighter, bomber, attacker, vehicle/boat) then that means they just kind of created the 'attack' score category without need.

Untrue... "Attack" to a fighter is a fighter using ords...

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Attack = Air to Ground Attack = Direct deliverance "Rockets, Dive Bombing" - "Getting up close and personal with your target"



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Re: Categorize B26 As "Attack"
« Reply #31 on: November 28, 2011, 11:33:43 PM »
^

huh? what are you talking about?

i was thinking same thing lol but WTF preceded my "are you talking about".

Q. b25/ a20, Boston, and that line of aircraft, is i click attack will i get fighter or bomber perks.

by the discussion I'm thinking bomber perks but just want to be sure.
i know i can just fly a sortie and find out but to set record straight for more than me, i think it should be here.



also correct me if im wrong but i think in attack mode killing anything gets added to your rank and scoring.
only planes killed and your aim count in fighter mode (and time, sorties, deaths... ect).
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Re: Categorize B26 As "Attack"
« Reply #32 on: November 28, 2011, 11:52:33 PM »
If selecting bomber/attack or fighter/attacker only affects which category your score counts towards (fighter, bomber, attacker, vehicle/boat) then that means they just kind of created the 'attack' score category without need.

I still don't get what you are trying to bring across. What "need" would justify an "attack" score category in your eyes? You somehow still seem to refuse to give up the perks-score connection
FYI, the scoring system - including attack - was installed long before anyone did even think of a perk system. Perks are what has been added much later and again: With no direct connection to the scoring system as perks are being used for entirely different things.
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Re: Categorize B26 As "Attack"
« Reply #33 on: November 28, 2011, 11:54:55 PM »
i was thinking same thing lol but WTF preceded my "are you talking about".

Q. b25/ a20, Boston, and that line of aircraft, is i click attack will i get fighter or bomber perks.
bomber



also correct me if im wrong but i think in attack mode killing anything gets added to your rank and scoring.
only planes killed and your aim count in fighter mode (and time, sorties, deaths... ect).
Yes, that's correct


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Re: Categorize B26 As "Attack"
« Reply #34 on: November 29, 2011, 12:04:26 AM »

You haven't read my post at all, I guess...

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Re: Categorize B26 As "Attack"
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Re: Categorize B26 As "Attack"
« Reply #36 on: November 29, 2011, 12:34:20 AM »
There should be a fibomtack mode, it'd be less confusing.
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Re: Categorize B26 As "Attack"
« Reply #37 on: November 29, 2011, 12:43:46 AM »
Lusche, in my opinion, a ground-attack type of aircraft, such as the Hs 129, Ju-88P (if we ever got it as a seperate variant), B-25H, and the Il-2, that are neither true level bombers nor true figthers.


Since the Il-2 was only recently switched over to an attack-only designation, that would (in my oppinion) be the first aircraft we have that would necessitate a seperate 'attack' category for the scoring.
You started this thread and it was obviously about your want and desire in spite of your use of 'we' and Google.

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Re: Categorize B26 As "Attack"
« Reply #38 on: November 29, 2011, 12:53:10 AM »
Lusche, in my opinion, a ground-attack type of aircraft, such as the Hs 129, Ju-88P (if we ever got it as a seperate variant), B-25H, and the Il-2, that are neither true level bombers nor true figthers.


Since the Il-2 was only recently switched over to an attack-only designation, that would (in my oppinion) be the first aircraft we have that would necessitate a seperate 'attack' category for the scoring.

There is a seperate attack category for scoring
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Re: Categorize B26 As "Attack"
« Reply #39 on: November 29, 2011, 12:55:04 AM »
Yes, but my point is that untill recently, it wasn't needed.
You started this thread and it was obviously about your want and desire in spite of your use of 'we' and Google.

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Re: Categorize B26 As "Attack"
« Reply #40 on: November 29, 2011, 12:58:48 AM »
I think the term attack is loosely applied here... but it's always been needed.

The P47 and P38 are without a doubt attack planes.  The P51 is a fighter with attack capabilities, but it's main roll was that of a fighter...

So then we have the 262 which Hitler historically wanted refitted for a ground attack/high speed bombing roll, yet in here can only be scored as a figher... and we have the A6M3 which has a worse gun package and carries no bombs, but can be classified as ground attack.

I do think some of it needs to be cleaned up, but there will always be a thin blurry line between fighter and attack.
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Re: Categorize B26 As "Attack"
« Reply #41 on: November 29, 2011, 01:09:28 AM »
Yes, but my point is that untill recently, it wasn't needed.

Yes, attack was needed. I suggest you go back in history of AH and look up the reasoning behind certain design decisions.  ;)
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Re: Categorize B26 As "Attack"
« Reply #42 on: November 29, 2011, 04:21:47 AM »
I think the term attack is loosely applied here... but it's always been needed.

The P47 and P38 are without a doubt attack planes.  The P51 is a fighter with attack capabilities, but it's main roll was that of a fighter...

So then we have the 262 which Hitler historically wanted refitted for a ground attack/high speed bombing roll, yet in here can only be scored as a figher... and we have the A6M3 which has a worse gun package and carries no bombs, but can be classified as ground attack

I do think some of it needs to be cleaned up, but there will always be a thin blurry line between fighter and attack.

in the same spirit the spit9 can only fly as fighter
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Re: Categorize B26 As "Attack"
« Reply #43 on: November 29, 2011, 11:13:31 AM »
in the same spirit the spit9 can only fly as fighter
It can carry a 500lb bomb.  I thought it had Attack as an option?  The Spit XIV is Fighter only though.
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Re: Categorize B26 As "Attack"
« Reply #44 on: November 29, 2011, 01:15:40 PM »
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