WW2 Spitfire brings down Bf109, you'll never spot the twist at the end.

[PR3D4TOR]

The Spitfire Mk V entered squadron service in late 1940 - early 1941. The 109F didn't appear in numbers until the summer of 1941. The Bf 109E served in Luftwaffe front line units well into 1942.

In theory a 109E-7 with a droptank (max range ~1300 km) could have reached Ireland.





In theory...

[oakranger]

I did not know that 240 German and allies where prison in Irland.....well, i knew Germans where.

[MiloMorai]

I did not know that 240 German and allies where prison in Irland.....well, i knew Germans where.

It was not only Argentina that Nazi war criminals escaped to but also Ireland after the war.

[MachFly]

One factor overlooked was the Bf 109E had barely enough range to spend 10 minutes over London... dogfighting over Ireland... Not possible.

I kinda figured the initial battle of over (or near) Ireland.

If the battle was really over London it would take too long to accidently get to Ireland even if they had fuel, would have had to be one of our AH 4 sector chases.

[Skyguns MKII]

If you watch the end of the video you'll know.

spotted what i had missed. 

[Skyguns MKII]

Just watched all the videos on that channel, The German was good, but I like A Lonely Sky much more.

ok but where is chuck yeager?

[MachFly]

ok but where is chuck yeager?

I assume Yeager came after that because no one in the video survived.

[DREDIOCK]

The Spitfire Mk V entered squadron service in late 1940 - early 1941. The 109F didn't appear in numbers until the summer of 1941. The Bf 109E served in Luftwaffe front line units well into 1942.

In theory a 109E-7 with a droptank (max range ~1300 km) could have reached Ireland.


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In theory...

If that map is accurate its more then just theory. But well within Ireland
Obviously some did otherwise they wouldnt have been interned there.

Considering the 109 had an oil hit and was running away from the spit. Its not outside the realm of possibility that the 109 pilot figured he would probably not make it back home and intentionally ran to Ireland all the while dumping alt.

[Skyguns MKII]

I assume Yeager came after that because no one in the video survived.

i need to do more research... 

[PR3D4TOR]

If that map is accurate its more then just theory. But well within Ireland
Obviously some did otherwise they wouldnt have been interned there.

Considering the 109 had an oil hit and was running away from the spit. Its not outside the realm of possibility that the 109 pilot figured he would probably not make it back home and intentionally ran to Ireland all the while dumping alt.

~1300 km max range on best economical cruise settings. Not in combat and running flat out with a Spit on its tail. I don't know, might have happened.

[Angus]

To answer your speculation about endurance, this 109 would have had to have a drop tank, and the raid would have to be on the ports of S-Wales. From there over to Ireland the distance is more or less under 100 km. That would still have been some 15 minutes to cover, or close to that.
The Spitfire would have been from 10th group, not so sure about the 109.
The British actually kept a squadron in N-Ireland during the BoB, but those were Hurricanes.
The LW actually attacked Dublin a few times (!!!), as well as Belfast, who got bombed quite a bit in 1941. It was a nasty raid and killed some 1000 people, but it was at night.
I guess one has to look at the film again and try to figure out, but thanks for the finding.

[cpxxx]

There are a few inconsistencies there alright. But I don't suppose the budget ran to getting it all perfectly accurate. Actually a more plausible ending would be for them both to end up in France with the RAF pilot finding himself facing some German soldiers. Also I think losing most of your wing would probably prove fatal even if you can get away with in Ace High.

But it is possible for them to end up over Ireland, after bombing raid on say; Bristol. The Irish sea is quite narrow there and at Spitfire speeds would be crossed easily and end up in the vicinity of Wexford. My Mother grew up there during the war and told me she could hear bombing over in England. So it's quite close. In fact her Uncle's house in Wexford was accidently bombed by a Heinkel 111 during the BoB.

But no 109 ever came down over Ireland. Quite a few Luftwaffe bombers did though, either shot down by the RAF or lost. There were a couple of running battles, and several cases where both attacker and attacked ended up crashing in Ireland. Quite often the crews had no idea where they were so the ending in the story is quite plausible.  

The caption at the end of the film mentions the interned crews. It's not strictly correct either, only the Germans were interned to the end of the war. All the British were sent home by 1943 and in any case they mostly stopped interning British airmen around 1942, quietly sending them back across the border. No USAAF aircrew were ever interned.

[GFShill]

Great video, this one took me by surprise and I ought to know better.

I haven't watched it all the way through, but what I've seen so far is very impressive.  The CGI is very well done, particularly with the sound effects.  As a reenactor, I can see the costuming is top notch.

[ozrocker]

Ireland was neutral, and some of the Gov. and IRA supported the Nazi's
Some even went as far as devising plan for invasion of Ireland for a jump-off
to invade England. The plan was turned down by German High Command.
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[MrRiplEy[H]]

I was waiting for the surprise ending.. but the cigarette wasn't boobytrapped in the end. I was a bit disappointed.