Author Topic: WW2 Spitfire brings down Bf109, you'll never spot the twist at the end.  (Read 1333 times)

Offline oakranger

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Re: WW2 Spitfire brings down Bf109, you'll never spot the twist at the end.
« Reply #30 on: December 05, 2011, 10:45:32 AM »
Ireland was neutral, and some of the Gov. and IRA supported the Nazi's
Some even went as far as devising plan for invasion of Ireland for a jump-off
to invade England. The plan was turned down by German High Command.
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I thought I read something about some Germans looking for the right spot in Irland for invasion.  
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Re: WW2 Spitfire brings down Bf109, you'll never spot the twist at the end.
« Reply #31 on: December 05, 2011, 10:53:07 AM »
"the Bf 109E had barely enough range to spend 10 minutes over London... dogfighting over Ireland... Not possible."

What if the 109E pilot toggled E and glided a lot. Just like pile-its in AH

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Re: WW2 Spitfire brings down Bf109, you'll never spot the twist at the end.
« Reply #32 on: December 05, 2011, 11:43:10 AM »
That was awesome.   They should make a feature film with that technology about the battle of Britain. 

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Re: WW2 Spitfire brings down Bf109, you'll never spot the twist at the end.
« Reply #33 on: December 05, 2011, 12:30:44 PM »
Ireland was neutral, and some of the Gov. and IRA supported the Nazi's
Some even went as far as devising plan for invasion of Ireland for a jump-off
to invade England. The plan was turned down by German High Command.
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The Germans were never really interested in invading Ireland. Assuming they got past the Royal Navy and RAF, they would hardly have received a welcome from the Irish. It wouldn't have been worth their while. During the war the IRA collaborated with the Nazis. As a result they were rounded up and interned for the duration. There was a lot more pro British/Allied feeling than anti.

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Re: WW2 Spitfire brings down Bf109, you'll never spot the twist at the end.
« Reply #34 on: December 05, 2011, 01:19:22 PM »
If that map is accurate its more then just theory. But well within Ireland
Obviously some did otherwise they wouldnt have been interned there.

Considering the 109 had an oil hit and was running away from the spit. Its not outside the realm of possibility that the 109 pilot figured he would probably not make it back home and intentionally ran to Ireland all the while dumping alt.

Er, no.... It's 275 air miles from London to the nearest coast of Ireland, across the Irish Sea.
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Re: WW2 Spitfire brings down Bf109, you'll never spot the twist at the end.
« Reply #35 on: December 05, 2011, 04:20:45 PM »
The OKH (Oberkommando des Heeres ) - German High Command's
Main reasons for not pursuing an Invasion were:
#1 Fear of German Armies cutoff.
#2 Inability to maintain supplies.
Exactly the (correct) points that the OKH argued against Barbarossa.


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Re: WW2 Spitfire brings down Bf109, you'll never spot the twist at the end.
« Reply #36 on: December 05, 2011, 04:22:40 PM »
great film :aok





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Re: WW2 Spitfire brings down Bf109, you'll never spot the twist at the end.
« Reply #37 on: December 05, 2011, 05:24:18 PM »
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Re: WW2 Spitfire brings down Bf109, you'll never spot the twist at the end.
« Reply #38 on: December 06, 2011, 04:19:01 AM »
Er, no.... It's 275 air miles from London to the nearest coast of Ireland, across the Irish Sea.

That's assuming they were fighting over London...
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Re: WW2 Spitfire brings down Bf109, you'll never spot the twist at the end.
« Reply #39 on: December 06, 2011, 06:18:02 AM »
~1300 km max range on best economical cruise settings. Not in combat and running flat out with a Spit on its tail. I don't know, might have happened.

And if you look at the map at the 750KM mark that puts you well within Ireland
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Re: WW2 Spitfire brings down Bf109, you'll never spot the twist at the end.
« Reply #40 on: December 06, 2011, 06:22:03 AM »
"the Bf 109E had barely enough range to spend 10 minutes over London... dogfighting over Ireland... Not possible."

What if the 109E pilot toggled E and glided a lot. Just like pile-its in AH

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It wasnt dog fighting over Ireland It merely ended there
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Re: WW2 Spitfire brings down Bf109, you'll never spot the twist at the end.
« Reply #41 on: December 06, 2011, 06:23:31 AM »
Er, no.... It's 275 air miles from London to the nearest coast of Ireland, across the Irish Sea.

and your assuming that they (in the video) were fighting over London. What if they werent?
In the entire video we dont see anything that even resembles london. and the fight in part is taking place over water.

Gotta remember too this is only a story. A work of fiction doesnt have to be 1000% accurate. It just has to be a good story.
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Re: WW2 Spitfire brings down Bf109, you'll never spot the twist at the end.
« Reply #42 on: December 09, 2011, 11:24:56 AM »
Well the pilot on the RAF side certainly assumed he was over English soil, and that my friends is at least 10 minutes of flight, flat out and from Wales ;)
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Re: WW2 Spitfire brings down Bf109, you'll never spot the twist at the end.
« Reply #43 on: December 09, 2011, 12:01:55 PM »
Well it is just a story, with a twist. Plausibility is not always the first priority in these things. Anyone seen Topgun lately?

You're right Angus, it's just a short hop between Wales and the South West, made the trip myself in something a lot slower over cloud as it happens. (Was mistaken for an errant missile or drone by a military controller as it happens. But that's another story.) It's a popular routing for light aircraft. Still nervewracking being single engined over the sea beyond gliding distance of land.

Actually I might be visiting your neck of the woods quite soon.  The boss bought another Airvan in Iceland the other day. Going to ferry it home after Christmas. Should be very interesting :uhoh.

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Re: WW2 Spitfire brings down Bf109, you'll never spot the twist at the end.
« Reply #44 on: December 09, 2011, 02:25:09 PM »
That british pilot is a real rocknrolla.