Midwar player numbers and mass deffection from Bish to Nit

[Max]

was in there last night. mob of 5 on each side! wheres the problem?

When the MW player count is above 30, side dispersion tends to be pretty well balanced. This leads to some good offense/defense; hence some pretty good fights. Unfortunately, the numbers are usually less than 20, at which point one chess piece winds up with overwhelming firepower. 1 or 2 players, defending a base against 6+ becomes old real fast. The fight becomes a slaughter and the only "fun" to be had is the group rolling base after base in order to win the coveted "You have won the war" perkies.

You want good fights? Lead by example and join the low number chess piece. Or, keep the same mentality and gripe about it. Your choice, really.

[CAP1]

was in there last night. mob of 5 on each side! wheres the problem?

 i didn't get home till about 9 or 930 last night. was too tired to try to log in. seems to be the case more and more often.........

[CAP1]

When the MW player count is above 30, side dispersion tends to be pretty well balanced. This leads to some good offense/defense; hence some pretty good fights. Unfortunately, the numbers are usually less than 20, at which point one chess piece winds up with overwhelming firepower. 1 or 2 players, defending a base against 6+ becomes old real fast. The fight becomes a slaughter and the only "fun" to be had is the group rolling base after base in order to win the coveted "You have won the war" perkies.

You want good fights? Lead by example and join the low number chess piece. Or, keep the same mentality and gripe about it. Your choice, really.

 bolded.....quite a few on here claim to do just this. very few of us actually do it though.

[sparow]

Icons are back on in AvA, Sparow.  They're a bit shorter than those in the MA, but they work just fine.

Hi Oldman!

That's great news for this graphically impaired - not to mention skill deprived - cartoon pilot!

I'll be showing up soon, AvA has allways been my favourite arena, ever! I also liked the no-icons but I have no machine for that... Got tired of chasing invisible 109's, darn good camo those buggers have!

Cya soon!

[AKP]

From reading the comments... and from personal experience in MW... I think the real problem is NOT that the sides are unbalanced.  That goes up and down depending on when you are on, who is on at the time, and what side they are on.

The real issues are the negative attitudes of some of the players that think they OWN the arena.  People who think they can bully everyone into playing their way.  People who whine and complain every time they get shot down, accuse others of cheating, playing unfair, and try to force their perception of reality on others.  People who think they are better than everyone else in the arena.

In LW its easy to ignore them because there are so many people and so much going on. You dont hear the babble on 200 unless you actively turn it on.  In MW... its a much smaller crowd, channel 1 in on by default, so its harder to ignore unless you squelch the channel. (which I often do).

But stop treating people like crap on all channel... or in PM's.   Ok... you think you got HO'ed.  Deal with it.  You got vulched on the runway...  get over it.  You got 6 1000 lb bombs dropped on your tiger by a lancstuka.  Whatever.  Smile, salute, and then re-up and go kick his butt... or at least try.  If you want to cry about it to your buddies on vox... fine... go ahead if they will listen to it.  But dont start slinging mud on all channel.  When I see it... I just squelch them anyway.  I have even squelched people on my side who wont stop whining.  I come here to fight... not to listen to someone cry about someone else who isnt "playing fair".

If someone is getting personal in their verbal attacks on you, or just being a total jackwagon... REPORT & SQUELCH.  Done.  People that get their voice and chat ability taken away a few times learn to keep their mouths shut.  And if they dont... they wont be here much longer.

Yes... the sides do get unbalanced easily in MW.  That is an easy fix.  Either change sides, or stick around and more people will log on.  But dont log off just because you got your hiney handed to you 3, or 4, or 5 times.  Learn from it.  But it's ridiculous to think that someone should have to change sides every 15 minutes to find a good fight.  I have seen fights go on for hours in MW... with fairly even sides.  A few leave... and few more come in.  

If a group is rolling undefended bases... either go fight them... or let them do it... who cares?  They WILL get bored.  And if they are taking bases that are being defended... join in the fight.  Make them work for it.  

I personally enjoy taking bases.  Not because I get to shoot at buildings.  Not because I get perks for it.  But because 1) I get to work as part of a team towards a goal, and 2) the fights that arise over attacking and defending bases are the best ones out there.  It beats a mindless furball over empty space any day of the week.  If the attack succeeds... awesome.  Re-up and go for another one and get ready to fight even harder for it.  If it fails... thats fine too.  Re-group and either come back with a better plan, or hit a different base while that one resets.  But dont just attack bases for the sake of taking them... attack them for the fight that will hopefully come from those who dont want you to take it.  I get disappointed if I am attacking a base and no one bothers to come defend.  IT'S BORING!

Ok... that's all I have to say about that.  

[ImADot]

The real issues are the negative attitudes of some of the players that think they OWN the arena.  People who think they can bully everyone into playing their way.  People who whine and complain every time they get shot down, accuse others of cheating, playing unfair, and try to force their perception of reality on others.  People who think they are better than everyone else in the arena.

Hehehe, reminds me of a certain skwad from EW a couple of years ago. I've got a couple of prime screenies of chat buffer after my SpitV spanked a certain player's quad-hizooka Hurri2c yet again.

I find it sad that in an arena with a low number of core players, that anyone (or any squad) still feels they "own" the arena and refuse to participate in the core element of the game: COMBAT WITH OTHER HUMANS FROM AROUND THE GLOBE.

[Lusche]

Hehehe, reminds me of a certain skwad from EW a couple of years ago. I've got a couple of prime screenies of chat buffer after my SpitV spanked a certain player's quad-hizooka Hurri2c yet again.

Ahhh, sweet memories.... 

[CAP1]

Hehehe, reminds me of a certain skwad from EW a couple of years ago. I've got a couple of prime screenies of chat buffer after my SpitV spanked a certain player's quad-hizooka Hurri2c yet again.

I find it sad that in an arena with a low number of core players, that anyone (or any squad) still feels they "own" the arena and refuse to participate in the core element of the game: COMBAT WITH OTHER HUMANS FROM AROUND THE GLOBE.

 i had a guy from awhile back in there complain, when he dropped on me in a hurri2c....he missed, and i got a lucky shot from my 38g, which took him down. i think he said i had to have been cheating.

[ImADot]

i had a guy from awhile back in there complain, when he dropped on me in a hurri2c....he missed, and i got a lucky shot from my 38g, which took him down. i think he said i had to have been cheating.

Hehehe.

I was acused of paying Hitech for a special SpitV because "no way a Spit can out-turn a Hurri", and "you the only one that seems to be able to do that".  Oh and, "you not that good, but in your special SpitV..." 

[Black Jack]

Hehehe, reminds me of a certain skwad from EW a couple of years ago. I've got a couple of prime screenies of chat buffer after my SpitV spanked a certain player's quad-hizooka Hurri2c yet again.

You got that right Imadot and Lusche. Soars were fun to shoot down  Specially Pluto or Eaglehrt 

In MW think the main thing is to change your goal when you are playing in there. I used to fly as the lower number in that arena. Like Shuffler said, before G3MF came back, it was the Bish who had the numbers. Nothing really changed, defending, defending, defending.  About 2 months ago I decided to switch to the knits and be part of the "Hammer" instead of being hammered by the #'s. It was fun for a change. Like Slipknot mentionned, the X-Playmates do not switch side to attack because of opposition. It may look like that sometimes, but their real goal is to roll the map. That's it. Being good or bad is anybody's opinion. So when they are done with the # of bases they need from one side, they will switch their attack. Last night I logged in, my goal was to hold the attackers from all sides. I was a knit coming in, I switched to Bish to defend for a while. That night, G3MF and friends were rooks taking bases. Did my best to hold them...  and knew you just can't hold 6+ guys alone for ever, but it was fun. Darn WWhisky even vulched the only defender on the runway     me. It's all good, I saved the base twice by shooting troopers. Eventually letting go. So by switching your goal---> this is what I mean. If your goal was to "stop" the base rolling... you will get angry pretty quick because you cannot hold them for ever if you don't have any help. BUT, my goal was to shoot down as many of their bombers and fighter that I could. And in this I had a blast. The pattern used is always the same more or less for taking a base quick. A few bombers (get town), a few heavy fighters(deackers) and a few troop carrier(finalize the property ownership). Now it's pretty easy to stop that.(not if your alone). Be in an advantage position before they get there. Kill enough bombers so they will have to bring more, kill the goon or m3. You stalled the process significantly. Rinse and repeat until they take it anyways if you don't get help.      If it's not your game, you can always go to LW and try to hold 25+ guys instead of 10+... But I agree with Max, when #'s get more even. Less base taking maybe, but fights that will last for the whole night.    

[pangea]

I was in MW last night around 11:00 pm EST.  Low numbers as usual (< 10 when I logged in), but had some fun fights regardless.  Only takes a few willing enemies to make for some good times (<S> Charmin and flatiron).  I for one, am going to make it a point to stop in there more often.  I miss flying in MW and would like to see it get back to the fun arena it used to be.  Will also keep my eye on the AVA and give that a try again if there are any numbers in there.

I agree that that the side switching limit needs to be reduced.

[grumpy37]

Looks like my thread did what i wanted it to do... Get peoples attention back on MW and get more people back in there!

For those of you that have never flown with me I will say this...  I have never thought I own an arena or are the best or better than everyone or anyone for that matter.  Ive been playing this a very long time and understand the overall dynamic of how to play the game and thats it.  Yes I would prefer to not get hoed, in my opinion it shows serious lack of skill and when done over and over again by certain players yes im going to say something on channel.  If you dont like it squelch me, i really dont care.  Everyone always says "Im just Grumpy" and i laugh every time i see that.  When you guys get all wound up about something ive said I laugh so hard i cant see straight. Its very rare im actually upset when anything is typed, i just do it to get under certain players skin.... and it works every time. 

And yes seapuppy, i have been seriously considering leaving the game for almost a year now.  Ive taken months off thinking it may help and ive realized its not that im not interested in the game itself, im tired of what the game has become as a whole.  That means changes in the game, attitudes of certain players, not just yours, and overall game play.  Im less and less interested in signing in, at this point i have to be out of other options of things to do before i sit down and log in and with a family of 5 thats not very often anymore.  So remember next time i write some antagonistic remark on all channel directed at you, or anyone else for that matter thats exactly what it is.... an antagonistic remark and you fall for it ever time.  I sit back and wait for you to mouth off and just smile,  its about the only thing that makes the $15 worth it anymore......Oh and squelching me just proves that deep down inside you know what im saying is true....   

[Max]

Its very rare im actually upset when anything is typed, i just do it to get under certain players skin.... and it works every time. 

And this helpes the game how...I may ask?

[Seadog36]

Good job on generating incidental renewed interest in MW if that's what the thread did. Read some nice posts from AKP and a few others~ looking forward to seeing pangea's 109 some more.

Squelch is just whine control~ and even puppies stop whining after six months.  

[CAP1]

the only thing i don't like about pangea is that i never see him in front of me......he's always in back throwing things at me.