Chinas J-20

[Tank-Ace]

Looks like an F22 with an Su-27's rear mounted wings, and an F15 ACTIVE's canards.

[MK-84]

Wow! I didn't know we had someone on the boards who helped design the Mig-25.  This is awesome. 

What do you consider extended times then?

[PR3D4TOR]

For the MiG-25 it would be a few minutes before it suffers from fuel starvation. An F-15C burns up all its internal fuel in about 10 minutes on full AB. The MiG would have less time. The SR-71 was very different thanks to its unique engines. The faster it went, the more fuel-efficient it was in terms of pounds burned per nautical mile traveled. It could cruise at Mach 3+ for more than 2,000 nmi. Conventional designs like the MiG-25 can only dash a short distance at max speed.

[icepac]

1300 mile range at supersonic speeds

[PR3D4TOR]

That's the RB version with the 5,300 liter droptank at a low-supersonic "supercruise". Not at Mach 3.

[USAF2010]

I'm waiting for someone to speculate on the B-1R coming out...... it's gonna be a monster 

[icepac]

That's the RB version with the 5,300 liter droptank at a low-supersonic "supercruise". Not at Mach 3.

Yes.......and it's still a real mig25 that will go 1200 miles at supersonic speeds.

[PR3D4TOR]

But not at the speed you claimed...

Mig 25s were clocked at mach 3.2 and possibly mach 3.4 for an extended period of time.

[PR3D4TOR]

I'm waiting for someone to speculate on the B-1R coming out...... it's gonna be a monster 

Sort of like a super Tu-160! 

[W7LPNRICK]

No copycat since the mig25 that viktor belenko defected with pre-dated the F15 and inspired it's creation.

Mig 25s were clocked at mach 3.2 and possibly mach 3.4 for an extended period of time.

What I remember hearing while in the Air Force was that the one which landed in Japan was a slow, mostly steel, very little high-tech metals and what was said was that Russia had mass produced these cheap look-a-likes to fool the spy plane/satellite photos examiners into thinking there were dozens of these already produced. Any "Real" demonstrations were done with the few prototypes. Might not have been the Mig-25...? It was a long time ago.   

[33Vortex]

Russian industry has always had problems with production quality. Prototypes is one thing (look at the Su47 f ex) the level of engineering and manufacturing quality in individual a/c built for trials and testing has never been comparable with actual production quality of aircraft delivered to the Soviet/Russian Air Force.

[nrshida]

The Russians had difficulties welding Titanium alloys at this time so employed thin gauge Stainless Steel instead. Mach 2.8 is a more realistic operational speed for the MiG-25 although it would do 3.2 for a short burst. Any more and the compressor tips would sustain damage. It's interesting that conjecture about what the MiG-25 was and was capable of lead to the F-15 which in turn lead to the MiG-29 and Su-27.

And yes, the J-20 doesn't look right. But neither does the F-35 imho.

[Raptor05121]

Back on topic- I wonder if it has one of these on the bottom 

[33Vortex]

Back on topic- I wonder if it has one of these on the bottom 

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Just another term for... slave labor. 

[PR3D4TOR]

The Russians had difficulties welding Titanium alloys at this time so employed thin gauge Stainless Steel instead. Mach 2.8 is a more realistic operational speed for the MiG-25 although it would do 3.2 for a short burst. Any more and the compressor tips would sustain damage. It's interesting that conjecture about what the MiG-25 was and was capable of lead to the F-15 which in turn lead to the MiG-29 and Su-27.

And yes, the J-20 doesn't look right. But neither does the F-35 imho.

The main reason they didn't use more titanium was cost-saving. They did use titanium in areas where the heat loading was greatest, like on the leading edges of the wing, and aluminum in cooler areas.

The Sukhoi T-4 was a prototype for a Mach 3 medium range bomber that was largely made from titanium, but as always it was too expensive for the Soviets.



It seems they'd rather sell the titanium to the imperialist-capitalist western pigs so we could make SR-71's from it. 




I've always liked the looks of Sukhoi designs, but I must say the new Sukhoi stealth fighter looks absolutely stunning!