Dual Gig Lan, worth it?

[katanaso]

Are you network savvy, or not too much?  Not a put down at all.  Just a question on how much you know as for the answers to give you.

Like anything, different answers for different people.

[NOT]

Since you have comcast, they probably used the same low bandwidth splitter as they did on me. It is gonna be 5-1000mhz, go get you a splitter with higher freq ratings. I swapped theirs out with on rated to 2500mhz, and noticed a major increase in stability on all my gaming and internet surfing.  




NOT

[PAKFRONT]

Are you network savvy, or not too much?  Not a put down at all.  Just a question on how much you know as for the answers to give you.

Like anything, different answers for different people.

Well, I pay two Internet bills every month, Have separate cables, one for the shop, and the other is for domestic stuff.. I have direct access to both, I own em! As far as being network savvy? I know which end to plug the cable in, lol! I guess that means not, huh? Ah nevermind, I'll call somebody and get a real answer without the petty ego bullschlopp.. Thanks for taking the trouble to answer!
Zalduta <Z>
PAK

[Rob52240]

Since you have comcast, they probably used the same low bandwidth splitter as they did on me. It is gonna be 5-1000mhz, go get you a splitter with higher freq ratings. I swapped theirs out with on rated to 2500mhz, and noticed a major increase in stability on all my gaming and internet surfing. 




NOT

I believe your old splitter must have been noisy or had some sort of fault in it if you're noticing a difference.  Comcast wouldn't use a splitter that doesn't work will the full spectrum of frequencies that their network utilizes.  If they did you would be missing television channels and/or have a modem that is impossible to sync up with comcast's local head end.

[katanaso]

Well, I pay two Internet bills every month, Have separate cables, one for the shop, and the other is for domestic stuff.. I have direct access to both, I own em! As far as being network savvy? I know which end to plug the cable in, lol! I guess that means not, huh? Ah nevermind, I'll call somebody and get a real answer without the petty ego bullschlopp.. Thanks for taking the trouble to answer!
Zalduta <Z>
PAK

I'm not quite sure what ego stuff you're talking about.

[TequilaChaser]

I went and got me one of thoe Motorola DOCSIS 3.0 modems, thinking I would be able to use it to increase my bandwidth...... the modem is still in thebox after I got so mad as to call the Windstream corporate office and got the VP on the phone and he had them at our house in less than 30 minutes............ just so the techs final answer was my modem would not work with their system......

hundreds of people have bought them and have gotten them hooked up to work for Time Warner and comcast and Cox and Charter etc.......  but since windstream is going around and buying up all the small and local ISP's and will not upgrade what they are buying..... they simply say you have to buy from us, buy our modems we sell

it was not like this before windstream bought them out, Lexcomm let us use anything we wanted ( they also jipped us out of our lifetime contract, they did it to everyone in the area ! )

as for using dual Lan Ports on a MB or dedicated in a PC...... for server purposes or network sharing through PC it is ok......... but like Baldeagle posted, it causes problems trying to bound them.....

I went through the whole house and instllled gigbit switches ( have 4 of them, home server, home storage, home media player, currently 6 PC's  and a laptop, all Cat 7  Shielded Twisted Pair patch cables with gold plated connectors ( to reduce emi freq, etc... )

gameing router  and have 1 Gigabit access through out my whole network,  I just simply can not get around my bottle neck ( modem )..... without switching to Time Warner  <--- the only other one offered in my area.......

TC

[Tigger29]

I'm not quite sure what ego stuff you're talking about.

he's just ticked because we're not congratulating him on how 1337 his dual internet connections are.

Personally if it were me I wouldn't bother having two connections.  It's a waste of money even if one is being used for business purposes.  It's still not going to make any difference in FPS numbers... the only noticeable difference would be if he were doing a lot of downloads at once but for one single connection there's not much benefit to be had.

[Rob52240]

I went and got me one of thoe Motorola DOCSIS 3.0 modems, thinking I would be able to use it to increase my bandwidth...... the modem is still in thebox after I got so mad as to call the Windstream corporate office and got the VP on the phone and he had them at our house in less than 30 minutes............ just so the techs final answer was my modem would not work with their system......

hundreds of people have bought them and have gotten them hooked up to work for Time Warner and comcast and Cox and Charter etc.......  but since windstream is going around and buying up all the small and local ISP's and will not upgrade what they are buying..... they simply say you have to buy from us, buy our modems we sell

it was not like this before windstream bought them out, Lexcomm let us use anything we wanted ( they also jipped us out of our lifetime contract, they did it to everyone in the area ! )

as for using dual Lan Ports on a MB or dedicated in a PC...... for server purposes or network sharing through PC it is ok......... but like Baldeagle posted, it causes problems trying to bound them.....

I went through the whole house and instllled gigbit switches ( have 4 of them, home server, home storage, home media player, currently 6 PC's  and a laptop, all Cat 7  Shielded Twisted Pair patch cables with gold plated connectors ( to reduce emi freq, etc... )

gameing router  and have 1 Gigabit access through out my whole network,  I just simply can not get around my bottle neck ( modem )..... without switching to Time Warner  <--- the only other one offered in my area.......

TC

Docsis 3 modems don't work on Docsis 2 networks.  It's kinda like plugging your ethernet card into a phone jack, it just won't work.

Gold plated connectors don't really offer much benefit aside from being resistant to corrosion.

You should be able to buy a docsis 2 modem and it should work just fine.  There may also be a way for you to install firmware on your docsis 3 modem to make it run docsis 2.

[TequilaChaser]

heya Rob52240,

we just have a difference of opinion on what will work on what....... hundreds of people have already bought them and are using them on different ISP's........ISP's that are still using DOCSIS 2.0 networks

Time Warner here in NC is DOCSIS 2.0 ( they supposed to be upgrading soon I heard )........ and have already confirmed to me that if I did re-subscribe to them that I would be able to use the new modem............. the reason I have not already done so is because of the $20+ dollar increase for them for a little less than what I am getting right now from my current ISP/Cable provider, even though I hate them ( my current provider ) is still cheaper for mypackage even though it went up almost $28 dollars when they renigged on our lifetime contract......

but then again, I am not a Cable professional............ I am going on what I have read about via google etc... and the different ISP provider websites......  I do recall europe comes in  to this somewhere when discussing  DOCSIS 2.0  & DOCSIS 3.0, if I recall correctly......

edit: the Cat 7 STP cables I used were bought because of them being shielded ........... thus to reduce any emi frequencies or interference with the likes of televisions, microwaves, cb radios, stereos, cell phones, power lines, high voltage step down transformers/splitters in the neighborhood, etc......  as for the gold plating part,  yes it does provide a better connection and as you posted in a humid area can reduce corrosiveness verses using copper

I already have a DOCSIS 2.0 modem.......... everyone who has purchased the other modem which is DOCSIS 3 capable has reported a substantual increase in their current bandwidth for the most part

TC

[NOT]

I believe your old splitter must have been noisy or had some sort of fault in it if you're noticing a difference.  Comcast wouldn't use a splitter that doesn't work will the full spectrum of frequencies that their network utilizes.  If they did you would be missing television channels and/or have a modem that is impossible to sync up with comcast's local head end.

You don't have much experience with Comcast do you??......




NOT

[BaldEagl]

So far sounds like its not worth the trouble.. BE, did you have two signal sources, or 2 feeds from a router with only one source? Was there a dif in FR, Just curious?
Thx for the replies..

One modem, two feeds from the router.  Also Comcast BTW.  No FR difference at all.

[2bighorn]

Docsis 3 modems don't work on Docsis 2 networks.  It's kinda like plugging your ethernet card into a phone jack, it just won't work.

Docsis 1, 2 and 3 are cross compatible by design. You can mix them, but they'll work with the speeds of the lowest version in the mix.

I already have a DOCSIS 2.0 modem.......... everyone who has purchased the other modem which is DOCSIS 3 capable has reported a substantual increase in their current bandwidth for the most part

With DOCSIS 3 modem you won't get any increase in bandwidth, unless you have a plan with higher bandwidth which require channel bonding (ie exceeds docsis 2 up/down speeds) and ISP has already deployed  docsis 3.

My ISP has deployed docsis 3, but my plan is 20/2 and docsis 1 modem is all I need. If I'd want 40/5 plan, I'd need docsis 3 modem though.

[PAKFRONT]

I'm not quite sure what ego stuff you're talking about.

Sorry bout the overshoot..

[PAKFRONT]

I went and got me one of thoe Motorola DOCSIS 3.0 modems, thinking I would be able to use it to increase my bandwidth...... the modem is still in thebox after I got so mad as to call the Windstream corporate office and got the VP on the phone and he had them at our house in less than 30 minutes............ just so the techs final answer was my modem would not work with their system......

hundreds of people have bought them and have gotten them hooked up to work for Time Warner and comcast and Cox and Charter etc.......  but since windstream is going around and buying up all the small and local ISP's and will not upgrade what they are buying..... they simply say you have to buy from us, buy our modems we sell

it was not like this before windstream bought them out, Lexcomm let us use anything we wanted ( they also jipped us out of our lifetime contract, they did it to everyone in the area ! )

as for using dual Lan Ports on a MB or dedicated in a PC...... for server purposes or network sharing through PC it is ok......... but like Baldeagle posted, it causes problems trying to bound them.....

I went through the whole house and instllled gigbit switches ( have 4 of them, home server, home storage, home media player, currently 6 PC's  and a laptop, all Cat 7  Shielded Twisted Pair patch cables with gold plated connectors ( to reduce emi freq, etc... )

gameing router  and have 1 Gigabit access through out my whole network,  I just simply can not get around my bottle neck ( modem )..... without switching to Time Warner  <--- the only other one offered in my area.......

TC

[PAKFRONT]

I went and got me one of thoe Motorola DOCSIS 3.0 modems, thinking I would be able to use it to increase my bandwidth...... the modem is still in thebox after I got so mad as to call the Windstream corporate office and got the VP on the phone and he had them at our house in less than 30 minutes............ just so the techs final answer was my modem would not work with their system......

hundreds of people have bought them and have gotten them hooked up to work for Time Warner and comcast and Cox and Charter etc.......  but since windstream is going around and buying up all the small and local ISP's and will not upgrade what they are buying..... they simply say you have to buy from us, buy our modems we sell

it was not like this before windstream bought them out, Lexcomm let us use anything we wanted ( they also jipped us out of our lifetime contract, they did it to everyone in the area ! )

as for using dual Lan Ports on a MB or dedicated in a PC...... for server purposes or network sharing through PC it is ok......... but like Baldeagle posted, it causes problems trying to bound them.....

I went through the whole house and instllled gigbit switches ( have 4 of them, home server, home storage, home media player, currently 6 PC's  and a laptop, all Cat 7  Shielded Twisted Pair patch cables with gold plated connectors ( to reduce emi freq, etc... )

gameing router  and have 1 Gigabit access through out my whole network,  I just simply can not get around my bottle neck ( modem )..... without switching to Time Warner  <--- the only other one offered in my area.......

TC

Thanks TC, lots of good stuff..