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Offline pangea

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Re: F6F Hellcat
« Reply #135 on: January 27, 2012, 02:49:55 PM »
Quote from: Slade on January 27, 2012, 01:12:46 PM
It is such a micro change it is hard to call it an "improvement".

Agreed.  Wasn't expecting the change to be dramatic, but I don't "see" much of an improvement here.
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Re: F6F Hellcat
« Reply #136 on: January 27, 2012, 04:22:18 PM »
It is a little bit better.  Not what it once was and certainly nowhere near as good as the F4U.  Maybe when the Corsair gets remodeled, it will get a similarly limited rear view.
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Re: F6F Hellcat
« Reply #137 on: January 27, 2012, 05:36:44 PM »
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Re: F6F Hellcat
« Reply #138 on: January 27, 2012, 06:22:51 PM »
Quote from: caldera on January 27, 2012, 04:22:18 PM
It is a little bit better.  Not what it once was and certainly nowhere near as good as the F4U.  Maybe when the Corsair gets remodeled, it will get a similarly limited rear view.

Why would the Corsairs get remodeled again? They're already up to 2.0 standard.
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Re: F6F Hellcat
« Reply #139 on: January 28, 2012, 06:15:45 AM »
Excuse me for asking, but shouldn't the F4U have a better rear view? Bubble canopy and all.
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Re: F6F Hellcat
« Reply #140 on: January 28, 2012, 07:13:07 AM »
Quote from: PR3D4TOR on January 28, 2012, 06:15:45 AM
Excuse me for asking, but shouldn't the F4U have a better rear view? Bubble canopy and all.

No because it has that giant piece of metal hanging above your head were glass should be.
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Re: F6F Hellcat
« Reply #141 on: January 28, 2012, 08:06:36 AM »
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No because it has that giant piece of metal hanging above your head were glass should be.

Not all versions.



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Re: F6F Hellcat
« Reply #142 on: January 28, 2012, 08:51:54 AM »
More correctly, most F4U-4s and some later 1Ds removed that plate entirely. The plate really should be removed from our -4 to be representative of the majority.
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Re: F6F Hellcat
« Reply #143 on: January 28, 2012, 08:56:47 AM »
I was a bit disappointed. I got to fly the new patch for the first time last night and the view with TrackIR out the back of an F6 isn't much better. If I could get the same view as the hog I'd be happy. I'd spend a lot more time in that plane if I could see out the back just a bit better.
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Re: F6F Hellcat
« Reply #144 on: January 28, 2012, 10:07:17 AM »
Quote from: MAINER on January 28, 2012, 07:13:07 AM
No because it has that giant piece of metal hanging above your head were glass should be.

Isn't this piece of metal modeled correctly in the game? Having a Malcolm-hood style bubble canopy gives the pilot the advantage of looking back down the side of his aircraft.
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Re: F6F Hellcat
« Reply #145 on: January 28, 2012, 04:38:10 PM »
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The plate really should be removed from our -4 to be representative of the majority.

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Re: F6F Hellcat
« Reply #146 on: January 28, 2012, 05:13:42 PM »
Quote from: Slade on January 28, 2012, 08:06:36 AM
Not all versions.

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Only the F2G1 and F2G2 "super Corsairs" built by Good Year powered by P&W R4360's had the bubbly canopy and they never even saw service
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Re: F6F Hellcat
« Reply #147 on: January 29, 2012, 02:29:14 AM »
Quote from: MAINER on January 28, 2012, 05:13:42 PM
Only the F2G1 and F2G2 "super Corsairs" built by Good Year powered by P&W R4360's had the bubbly canopy and they never even saw service

got any documents to back that up?

I thought they even went as far as to replacing some of the birdcage canopys on the early F4U-1 models with bubble canopys  in the field as a field modification....

and used the bubble canopy on the F4U-4's & -5's  as well as having most F4U-1D's & -1C's with bubble canopys also.....  with some F4U-1A models thrown in as well

is everyone talking about the same thing here?  bubble canopy  vs bubbily canopy ( is extra buldging bubble outwards )  vs the original birdcage

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Re: F6F Hellcat
« Reply #148 on: January 29, 2012, 07:44:04 AM »
The Malcolm-hood style bubble canopy (like on the Spit and P-51B/C) could be retrofitted in the field, but a true bubble canopy would require major structural changes to the rear fuselage.

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Re: F6F Hellcat
« Reply #149 on: January 29, 2012, 08:27:17 AM »
Quote from: TequilaChaser on January 29, 2012, 02:29:14 AM
got any documents to back that up?

I thought they even went as far as to replacing some of the birdcage canopys on the early F4U-1 models with bubble canopys  in the field as a field modification....

and used the bubble canopy on the F4U-4's & -5's  as well as having most F4U-1D's & -1C's with bubble canopys also.....  with some F4U-1A models thrown in as well

is everyone talking about the same thing here?  bubble canopy  vs bubbily canopy ( is extra buldging bubble outwards )  vs the original birdcage

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I learned this from talking with an old guy who flew AU-7s (dedicated ground attack version for the marines) who knows a ton about F4U's and he said that the only ones that had a true bubble canopy were the F2G1 and F2G2.
Quote from: PR3D4TOR on January 29, 2012, 07:44:04 AM
The Malcolm-hood style bubble canopy (like on the Spit and P-51B/C) could be retrofitted in the field, but a true bubble canopy would require major structural changes to the rear fuselage.

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  The red one in that picture is an F2G2 that has been modified for air racing.
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