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Re: Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 vs Ford Mustang Boss 302 Laguna Seca
« Reply #30 on: March 10, 2012, 04:51:41 PM »
Can you say Viper????  Now holds the lap record at Neurbering.

Vipers and Corvettes same class and compete against one another.

Corvettes and Mustangs two completely different classes of automobiles.

I'll still take my MOPAR  :aok
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Re: Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 vs Ford Mustang Boss 302 Laguna Seca
« Reply #31 on: March 10, 2012, 05:01:16 PM »
Can you say Viper????  Now holds the lap record at Neurbering.

Vipers and Corvettes same class and compete against one another.

Corvettes and Mustangs two completely different classes of automobiles.

I'll still take my MOPAR  :aok

 i can get ya a 1200hp street viper if ya got enough money. it's a ragtop to.  :devil
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Re: Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 vs Ford Mustang Boss 302 Laguna Seca
« Reply #32 on: March 10, 2012, 06:44:20 PM »
i can get ya a 1200hp street viper if ya got enough money. it's a ragtop to.  :devil

What year Cap???
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Re: Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 vs Ford Mustang Boss 302 Laguna Seca
« Reply #33 on: March 10, 2012, 07:59:49 PM »
What year Cap???

 i think it's an 06. that's about when they started calling them srt10's, isn't it?

it's a friends....and he hasn't been advertising it for sale....but then again, everything has a price.

 i'll link a video featuring it in a week or so. he needs it aligned, and i'm getting a new alignment setup....so i'm going to have the company rep show me how to do it on his viper......and i'm gonna have him film it, so i can upload the video, and try to pimp my shop a little.
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Re: Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 vs Ford Mustang Boss 302 Laguna Seca
« Reply #34 on: March 10, 2012, 09:10:20 PM »
so lets look at a little more fair comparison....although it is in no way fair.

 continental tire challenge cars.

ford mustang boss302. built by ford on the same assembly line as street mustangs.....till it comes time for the racing equipment. it is then pulled off of that line, sent out to a welding shop, has the roll cage welded in, is returned to the autoalliance plant(you know? the one that the ford haters said was closing?) and from that point it is assembled by hand. when it leaves the ford factory, it is ready to race, with the exception of a driver, fuel and spare tires.
 it must(per the rules) run the ecu delivered in it from ford, and it runs an air intake restrictor. it carries 17 gallons of fuel.

 chevy camaro gs-r. built by chevy on the same assembly line as street camaros. it leaves the factory as a street camaro, and goes to riley racing, where they prep it for racing. it can run aftermarket ecu's, has no air restrictor, and carries 18 gallons of fuel.

 they both weigh approximately the same. yet........in this series last year, the only 2 races won by camaros, were races in which the top mustang and bmw teams were either knocked out of the race by accidents, or severely set back due to accidents.

 it was the ford mustang that came within seconds of taking  manufacturers championship from bmw last year. not the chevy camaro. this year, this series started off much the same. ford mustang won, followed by a flotilla of bmw's. there wasn't even a camaro in the top ten. and this was at datona, where supposedly the camaro's 6 liter should have a massive advantage on the long straights. oh yea...almost forgot..the bmw's are factory built racers too....and they too run air intake restrictors.

 the 24 hours of daytona was finished by fords 1,2,3 in daytona prototype.

 someone earlier up mentioned that the vettes don't do well.....they did kick but in the 24 hours in the gt class.





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Re: Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 vs Ford Mustang Boss 302 Laguna Seca
« Reply #35 on: March 10, 2012, 10:51:46 PM »
It's more like

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Nope, it's depending on the Corvette to pull it's weight and Built in Canada.

I know where it is built. Ever tour the plant? :)
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Re: Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 vs Ford Mustang Boss 302 Laguna Seca
« Reply #36 on: March 10, 2012, 10:52:42 PM »
Can you say Viper????  Now holds the lap record at Neurbering.

Vipers and Corvettes same class and compete against one another.

Corvettes and Mustangs two completely different classes of automobiles.

I'll still take my MOPAR  :aok

Vipers no longer built....  :P
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Re: Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 vs Ford Mustang Boss 302 Laguna Seca
« Reply #37 on: March 10, 2012, 10:53:42 PM »
I know where it is built. Ever tour the plant? :)

Nope.   Let's just compare Apples to Apples.    Oshawa IIRC has been the plant, since Van Nuys shut down.  
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Re: Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 vs Ford Mustang Boss 302 Laguna Seca
« Reply #38 on: March 10, 2012, 10:57:26 PM »
Nope.   Let's just compare Apples to Apples.    Oshawa IIRC has been the plant, since Van Nuys shut down.  

Yup and some great guys up there too. Several are honorary members of our Club.
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Re: Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 vs Ford Mustang Boss 302 Laguna Seca
« Reply #39 on: March 11, 2012, 06:23:43 AM »
Vipers no longer built....  :P

Better look again.  They still compete and are being re-introduced in 2013.

They still kick a vettes arse.  A few short months ago a Viper as stated before, set the Neurbering Lap record.

The only American Cars that could compete with Ferrari, Porsche etc. were the Cobra Daytona and the Cobra GT and the Viper.

Chevy never made anything of that class that could compete and win with any consistency.

My all time favorite of that class.....The Shelby Cobra Daytona.  They embarassed Enzo to the point he canceled a race
so that his Ferraris wouldn't be embarrased again.

Even so...I still like both the Camaro and the Mustang.  Muscle is back.  Mopar my true one and only love  :rock
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Re: Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 vs Ford Mustang Boss 302 Laguna Seca
« Reply #40 on: March 11, 2012, 09:30:06 AM »
I think the insurance cost will keep me away. It costs $130/month just to be insured in the Taurus.

 

Nah, I wasn't kidding. I do want a new car.

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Re: Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 vs Ford Mustang Boss 302 Laguna Seca
« Reply #41 on: March 11, 2012, 09:31:06 AM »


Chevy never made anything of that class that could compete and win with any consistency.


Didn't Chevy make a Vette on steroids that was selling for $200,000.00 or so?
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Re: Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 vs Ford Mustang Boss 302 Laguna Seca
« Reply #42 on: March 11, 2012, 09:56:38 AM »
you might wanna read up on the new gt500. it's much much more than a hp boost.

I'd only read a little about it, little interest, ya know.  :D

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and the boss302 is a few seconds slower than the current gt500 at vir. 2:58 vs 3:02(kinda funny that time, eh?)


What's your source for that 2:58 time? The Feb 2011 test of the current GT500 in the C&D Lightning Lap netted a 3:04:00 time for the GT500, 1.2 sec slower than the Boss 302.
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Re: Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 vs Ford Mustang Boss 302 Laguna Seca
« Reply #43 on: March 11, 2012, 10:03:23 AM »
Vipers no longer built....  :P
uumm..i think you may be mistaken here. hajo would know better.......
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Re: Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 vs Ford Mustang Boss 302 Laguna Seca
« Reply #44 on: March 11, 2012, 10:04:42 AM »
My opinion the Laguna is an over priced status symbol, you would be better off with a stock pony and taking the extra 20k-30k [cost difference] and buying some real performance upgrades for it so it truly would kick butt.   :bolt: