Thoughts on "Bomber Bailers"

[earl1937]

Time and again, I hear someone say, "bail and go get a goon with troops". No sane or normal pilot would bail out of a perfectly good working aircraft!! I suggest that to stop this sort of BS, is Hi Tech needs to program the whole program in AH, where a pilot cannot bail out of an aircraft if the damage message says, "all systems normal". I know that there are people in here who say, "oh, its just a game"!! What is wrong with displaying a certain amount of honor and respect for those of us who try to fly in here, just like we did in the real Air Force? I fly bombers 95% of the time in here for 2 reasons: 1- bad eyesight,(78 yrs old), 2- #1 again! I think part of the fun and enjoyment is the cat and mouse with a good stick like Debrody, Hymie, Oddcaf, Pand. If they can shoot me down, then they have out smarted me or my aim is just off. I also enjoy a 45 to 60 bomber formation with escorts, it brings back memories of yesterday!!

[Ack-Ack]

Other than you, who really gives a rat's arse if someone bails out of a perfectly good airplane?  It doesn't effect anyone's game play so why whine and cry about nothing?


ack-ack

[Full Metal Jug]

Other than you, who really gives a rat's arse

I know that there are people in here who say, "oh, its just a game"!! What is wrong with displaying a certain amount of honor and respect for those of us who try to fly in here, just like we did in the real Air Force?

Can't we all just get along? If you aren't going to agree with the topic author why do you post?

[Karnak]

Other than you, who really gives a rat's arse if someone bails out of a perfectly good airplane?  It doesn't effect anyone's game play so why whine and cry about nothing?


ack-ack

Actually, if I just spent 20 minutes climbing up to and catching them only to have them bail out before I get to have a fight, yes, it did affect my gameplay.

[Arlo]

The last 'We must maintain HONOR and RESPECT by telling other players how to play!' thread I participated in bruised a lot of thin skin.

[cobia38]

 i have never seen a B38 pilot bail froma good plane

[colmbo]

Other than you, who really gives a rat's arse if someone bails out of a perfectly good airplane?

Me. And with the number of times you hear folks complain about "bombing and bailing" I think it's safe to say Earl and I aren't the only folks concerned about the rodents derriere.

I feel it's a pretty lame way to play the game, it's something I would never do.  I fly, as much as possible within the confines of the game, the way I would in real life.

However I've also been doing this long enough to realize I can't get everyone to play the way I play.

[Ack-Ack]

i have never seen a B38 pilot bail froma good plane

S.A.P.P by laws state that all members must unbind the bail out key otherwise we have to face the Consortium of 12.

Honestly though, much ado about really nothing.  Sure, it's a pisser when the bandit bails out, I have it happen to me quite often but I just shrug it off and laugh at the other guy.  I don't see it as a reason to get all butt hurt like some are in this thread under the tired old rally cry of "HONOR!" and "REALISM!"

ack-ack

[USAF2010]

I have to side with Earl on this one. While yes it is a game, I lean towards the honor and reality side.

So many fights get chumped up just because the person you're chasing wants to be back in the tower quicker..

[guncrasher]

so instead of bailing, I point the nose down till I crash, then what?  you gonna request my plane bounces off the ground?


Semp

[MK-84]

S.A.P.P by laws state that all members must unbind the bail out key otherwise we have to face the Consortium of 12.

Honestly though, much ado about really nothing.  Sure, it's a pisser when the bandit bails out, I have it happen to me quite often but I just shrug it off and laugh at the other guy.  I don't see it as a reason to get all butt hurt like some are in this thread under the tired old rally cry of "HONOR!" and "REALISM!"

ack-ack

I disagree, It is absolutely frustrating when a pilot bails on purpose just to deny you of a possible kill.  It has nothing at all with "honor" or realism.  If I fly or climb, or otherwise  set up an attack, watching my enemy essentially disappear just plain sucks.

The idea of a combat sim is combat right?  You know, shooting down the other guy.  Well if they bail, they just denied you of that.  And in many cases you may have spent a decent effort getting ready to attack that target.

How can you possibly say it's not a big deal, when it clearly goes against the entire point of the game. (which is air to air combat I believe)

[guncrasher]

lol the other day we had a mission was pretty good planned we took the time to go up a few thousand feet.  then somebody noticed that another base was having an noe attacked.  it took about 4 seconds for our mission to decide to bail out and go kill the evil doers.  we saved the base.  either way had we continued or we defended as we did we had fun.  and that's what this game is about.  have fun your way.  if you want somebody else to play by your rules create a private arena  and that's that. 


semp

[thndregg]

There's really not a whole lot to do about folks who bomb & bail, although from an interceptor standpoint, it is frustrating.

I personally choose to follow through with my heavy bomber sorties, and if that means somebody like Snailman "cleans my clock", so be it. If it means a total "milk run", so be it. It was that way historically.

[tunnelrat]

What if bailing (from an airborne craft) automatically gives a victory to the closest enemy within x-K distance?

I agree that it's lame, but I think the answer is rewarding safe landings more so than punishing/preventing/etc unwarranted bails.

Since there is an inexhaustible supply of virtual hardware, the only tangible mechanic preventing bailing out is the built in "Oh wait, I am not a sweetheartbag!" chip that some of us have installed (speaking strictly about turds bailing/crashing to avoid being shot down).

Heck, when I see you vectoring for my goon, I WANT to know who you are... you who are about to commit the E-quivalent of punching a kid on a short bus... because when I pay the gypsies to curse your man and/or girl part's functionality, THEY WANT A NAME.

[MAINER]

I like the idea. +1