Spitdweeb: Or, what's wrong with flying the Spit?

[Bruv119]

I really should research the Spitfires one on these days. I've always assumed the spixteen was a 44-45 bird. God help us all if they made them any better then that..... and then add them to the game 

ok maybe I exaggerated a little bit should have said 1945      

spit 21  x 4 cannon  clipped griffon. 

[Guppy35]

ok maybe I exaggerated a little bit should have said 1945      

spit 21  x 4 cannon  clipped griffon. 

<Facepalm> 

Spit XVI is nothing more then a Spitfire LFIXe with an American made Packard Merlin 266.  The LFIXe has the English made Rolls Royce Merlin 66.  Same airframe.  Switch the engines and you make a 16 a 9 and a 9 a 16. 

So it's a 44-45 bird only in that it's got the E wing.  The Merlin 66 Spit IX was a 43 bird along with the Merlin 66 Spit VIII.  Should HTC ever put a Universal wing on the Spit XVI model and give it full span wings, you'd have a 1943 Spitfire IX.

Oh how I now wish HTC had called the XVI an IXe.   No one would think twice about it then.  But they see 16 and assume it must be better then 8, 9 or 14.

The Spit 21 with the Griffon and 4 cannon was not a clipped wing Spit.  The entire wing was re-designed.  Put a Spit XIV and an 21 together and look from above and you'd see the 21 wing was not the usual Spitfire wing.

That anyone complains about Spits is silly.  At least they stick around and try and fight.

[Guppy35]

Which one is the Spit XVI?  Which one is the Spit IX.  Please note the serial numbers.  There is one of each here.





What kind of Spit is it?


How bout this one?


And these two.  One clipped, one not.


What kind of Spit is this?


How bout this one?


And this clipped wing Spit? What is it?


How bout this one?


And this?


Almost forgot this one.  What is this clipped Spit with wing racks?


Do you detect a theme?  I've used these same Spit images over and over, every time the same goofy discussion on the Spit XVI starts

[Rob52240]

I'm quite fond of the 16, it's great for killing aeroplanes, and great for killing tanks and other vehicles.  It's one of the few tactical fighters that lets you take 3 bombs and I love that about it too.

[ink]

And anyone of em that got into a turnfight with ya was going to die.  That's why the Hurri in AH is more potent then the Hurri was for real.  When life really mattered, no one was going to turn with the better turning bird

agree 100%

[Guppy35]

And as long as we're at it.  The roll rate on the Spit with clipped wings was done for one reason.  The Spit Vb was so totally outclassed by the 190A when it appeared, they did everything they could to try and give those guys a chance.  The clipped wing greatly improved the roll rate and they started it in 42-43.  The Spit XII then was produced and introduced in the Spring of 43 and it was clipped from the start.  With its low alt rated Griffon III/IV and clipped wings it was a match in performance for the 190s in particular down low.

Since the XVI was produced essentially as a ground attack Spit with the extra hard points, they gave it the clipped wing in production as the roll rate helped and the turn radius wasn't impacted much down low.  You you guys whining about the roll rate being unfair, get over it.  They did what they had to to compete.  Since AH is a down low kinda fight most times, the XVI or IXe, since they are the same, does it's job well.

Clipping the wing was about a half hour job and was done often, in particular if the Spit was going to be working down low.  That included Vs, IXs, VIIIs, XIIs, XVIs and XIVs although the XIVs were mainly postwar.

Clipped Vb from 43


Clipped XII


Clipped Seafires

[Changeup]

oh pick me pick me

Oh INK, we've already danced...lots and lots.  KI vs KI and KI vs 1A, lol...yes, I had to bring that up

[shiv]

That anyone complains about Spits is silly.  At least they stick around and try and fight.

+1000000. I'd rather fight a Spit than chase a Pony.

[Midway]

And as long as we're at it.  The roll rate on the Spit with clipped wings was done for one reason.  The Spit Vb was so totally outclassed by the 190A when it appeared, they did everything they could to try and give those guys a chance.  The clipped wing greatly improved the roll rate and they started it in 42-43.  The Spit XII then was produced and introduced in the Spring of 43 and it was clipped from the start.  With its low alt rated Griffon III/IV and clipped wings it was a match in performance for the 190s in particular down low.

Since the XVI was produced essentially as a ground attack Spit with the extra hard points, they gave it the clipped wing in production as the roll rate helped and the turn radius wasn't impacted much down low.  You you guys whining about the roll rate being unfair, get over it.  They did what they had to to compete.  Since AH is a down low kinda fight most times, the XVI or IXe, since they are the same, does it's job well.

Clipping the wing was about a half hour job and was done often, in particular if the Spit was going to be working down low.  That included Vs, IXs, VIIIs, XIIs, XVIs and XIVs although the XIVs were mainly postwar.

Clipped Vb from 43
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Clipped XII
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Clipped Seafires
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You sure seem to know your history.  Very nice.... Very nice indeed. 

[killnu]

oh the 8 and 9 are far more dangerous in a fight but we were tarnishing the 16's reputation I thought  

now if I were to go check up on the percentage of K4 usage amongst Luft dweebs then I bet it would figure well over say 50% ?    

Would love to have some 1944-45 Spitfires then we might have something to cry about. 

Could check my stats if you like. 

Karma

[HL117]

 Easy Mode!



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[Shane]

You sure know your history.  Very nice.... Very nice indeed. 

fixed. 

[coombz]

this thread has made me all

time to go up a 16 

(don't worry I still suck even in supposed 'easy mode' )

[Bruv119]

Could check my stats if you like. 

Karma

you follow the true path though killnU,  a worthy adversary and not someone I would class a dweeb.     

[Ardy123]

you follow the true path though killnU,  a worthy adversary and not someone I would class a dweeb.     

<----- former luft 'dweeb' who almost exclusively flew the k4

... and fluff'n proud