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Last of the Giants
« on: March 27, 2012, 04:13:06 AM »
I thought this was very interesting.  I was born well after the change to diesel and had no idea that the old steam locomotives were as powerful, and sometime more powerful than what we're producing today.

Union Pacific "Big Boy"  the largest steam locomotives ever produced
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pi7Jac3htts&feature=youtu.be&hd=1&t=12m22s
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Re: Last of the Giants
« Reply #1 on: March 27, 2012, 05:44:46 AM »
I thought this was very interesting.  I was born well after the change to diesel and had no idea that the old steam locomotives were as powerful, and sometime more powerful than what we're producing today.

Union Pacific "Big Boy"  the largest steam locomotives ever produced

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These are some impressive machines, along with their smaller cousins the Challangers. It's impressive to see a million pound machine up close.

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Re: Last of the Giants
« Reply #2 on: March 27, 2012, 06:32:54 AM »
That is one big train.  :O

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Re: Last of the Giants
« Reply #3 on: March 27, 2012, 08:13:18 AM »
That is one big loco.  :O

fixed ;)


edit: thinking about it, that may be a UK-only correction
« Last Edit: March 27, 2012, 08:34:01 AM by RTHolmes »
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Re: Last of the Giants
« Reply #4 on: March 27, 2012, 08:40:43 AM »
fixed ;)


edit: thinking about it, that may be a UK-only correction

Nope, you are mostly correct.  'Train' is used as generic term to include all the cars, including the locomotive and caboose, as a single unit.

Technically, the usage of 'train' is appropriate as there is a locomotive and a coal car.  Some would argue a train cannot be a train without a caboose as well.

At least, that is how it is used in the U.S.

That is one huge locomotive though.
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Re: Last of the Giants
« Reply #5 on: March 27, 2012, 09:08:03 AM »
That's not a train and certainly not a locomotive.  It's a "choo choo".  Just ask my niece, who appears to be an expert on such things.

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Re: Last of the Giants
« Reply #6 on: March 27, 2012, 09:18:23 AM »
those Big Boys are total beasts, are there any still running?
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Re: Last of the Giants
« Reply #7 on: March 27, 2012, 10:13:03 AM »
That's not a train and certainly not a locomotive.  It's a "choo choo".  Just ask my niece, who appears to be an expert on such things.

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Re: Last of the Giants
« Reply #8 on: March 27, 2012, 11:51:50 AM »
those Big Boys are total beasts, are there any still running?

I believe that there are 8 left in existence, none of which are running IIRC.  There are however a few of the Challangers and Yellowstones running I believe.  They were beasts too.  I have had the privilege of seeing some of these Loco's in action here in Minnesota and they are impressive to say the least.

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Re: Last of the Giants
« Reply #9 on: March 27, 2012, 11:54:58 AM »
We have several locomotives in the area but none that size that I know of. That is one long loco.
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Re: Last of the Giants
« Reply #10 on: March 29, 2012, 09:29:22 PM »
Well I feel like an idiot for not calling the choo-choo it's proper name.
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Re: Last of the Giants
« Reply #11 on: March 29, 2012, 10:31:19 PM »
There are no operable Big Boys and no plans to return any to running condition.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Union_Pacific_Big_Boy

More powerful and slightly less weight were the 2-6-6-6 Alleghenys.

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Re: Last of the Giants
« Reply #12 on: March 30, 2012, 12:00:12 AM »
Nope, you are mostly correct.  'Train' is used as generic term to include all the cars, including the locomotive and caboose, as a single unit.

Technically, the usage of 'train' is appropriate as there is a locomotive and a coal car.  Some would argue a train cannot be a train without a caboose as well.

At least, that is how it is used in the U.S.

That is one huge locomotive though.
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Re: Last of the Giants
« Reply #13 on: March 30, 2012, 01:20:26 AM »
I've never actually seen a Big Boy, and can only imagine how impressive it was rolling down the tracks.

I have seen this run down the tracks a couple of times.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_Pacific_4449

If you're ever in Sacramento the Railroad museum is worth a visit.
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Skuzzy, I don't know how it is in Texas, but here in the west they haven't used the caboose in twenty years or more.

I may not be old enough to have seen steam locomotives but I do remember cabooses. When I was a kid I thought that would be the best job in the world. Getting to travel all over the country looking out the windows of the caboose with not a care in the world.  :lol
 
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Re: Last of the Giants
« Reply #14 on: March 30, 2012, 01:33:46 AM »
Anyone else think it was cool when The Boys on Top Gear (real) raced a steam choo-choo against a Vincent Black Shadow and a 1946 Jaguar?

http://www.topgear.com/uk/videos/train-race-part-1
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