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Offline MK-84

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F4U single drop tank offset
« on: March 29, 2012, 06:07:21 PM »
On the hog, why is the single droptank taken mounted offset to the left, common sense would dictate that since it wants to roll that way from torque that would make the problem worse.  But thats how it is, and there must be a reason.  Any ideas?

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Re: F4U single drop tank offset
« Reply #1 on: March 29, 2012, 06:55:35 PM »
On the hog, why is the single droptank taken mounted offset to the left, common sense would dictate that since it wants to roll that way from torque that would make the problem worse.  But thats how it is, and there must be a reason.  Any ideas?
I have copies of the American "Pilot's Manual for F4U Corsair" and the British "Pilot's Notes for Corsair I-IV" and I can find no mention anywhere of the drop tank being offset to the left - the release control handle is on the left side of the instrument panel but that's about all. The American manual notes that the "left wing tends to be slightly heavy just as the airplane becomes airborne, due to the high torque reaction." for which 6° Right Wing Down set on the aileron tab would compensate, otherwise nothing is mentioned in regard to re-trimming when carrying the centreline drop tank, which is what would be expected if it was offset to the left.

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Re: F4U single drop tank offset
« Reply #2 on: March 29, 2012, 07:34:08 PM »
otherwise nothing is mentioned in regard to re-trimming when carrying the centreline drop tank, which is what would be expected if it was offset to the left.

he is not refering to the F4U-1 or the F4U-1A..........  he is talking about the single tank on the F4U-1C or F4U-1D  or F4U4............ after  the right tank is dropped, I would think?????

the others ( F4U-1 and F4U-1A )  are the only 2 to carry a single tank, which is middle mounted........

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Re: F4U single drop tank offset
« Reply #3 on: March 29, 2012, 07:35:35 PM »
and to add......

MK-84, Sir............... it is because those mounts for the tanks/or bombs  are already there......they are hard mounts unlike the center mount for the 1st 2 versions of hogs...........

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Re: F4U single drop tank offset
« Reply #4 on: March 29, 2012, 08:25:11 PM »
and to add......

MK-84, Sir............... it is because those mounts for the tanks/or bombs  are already there......they are hard mounts unlike the center mount for the 1st 2 versions of hogs...........

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But why not design it to release the other tank first so that the remaining tank helps to stabilize the aircraft instead of making the heavy wing heavier?  At least I think that that is what Mk84 is asking.

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Re: F4U single drop tank offset
« Reply #5 on: March 29, 2012, 10:04:03 PM »
he is not refering to the F4U-1 or the F4U-1A..........  he is talking about the single tank on the F4U-1C or F4U-1D  or F4U4............ after  the right tank is dropped, I would think?????

the others ( F4U-1 and F4U-1A )  are the only 2 to carry a single tank, which is middle mounted........

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Re: F4U single drop tank offset
« Reply #6 on: March 29, 2012, 11:40:14 PM »
I do not recall there being a need for the drop tank to be mounted on the lh side.  The last -4 I mounted a tank to, we mounted in on the RH side as I recall.  Both sides are more than capable of feeding, especially with the boost pump sucking them dry.  I can look in my manuals, but am fairly sure it is not dictated one way or the other.

As for weight, I know a couple of hog owners and none has complained about the tanks hanging one side or the other, so I imagine it is not much of an issue.
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Re: F4U single drop tank offset
« Reply #7 on: March 30, 2012, 10:55:11 AM »
No, I mean you can select a single droptank in the hanger, but it hangs offset to the left instead of on the right which I would have thought would make more sense.

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Re: F4U single drop tank offset
« Reply #8 on: March 30, 2012, 05:33:00 PM »
No, I mean you can select a single droptank in the hanger, but it hangs offset to the left instead of on the right which I would have thought would make more sense.

As Bodhi noted the offset tank doesn't have enough effect to worry about.
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Re: F4U single drop tank offset
« Reply #9 on: March 30, 2012, 06:55:18 PM »
As Bodhi noted the offset tank doesn't have enough effect to worry about.

Right, but that has nothing do with answering my question.

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Re: F4U single drop tank offset
« Reply #10 on: March 31, 2012, 09:20:44 AM »
Dunno...(This is an F4u-5, the funny pod is radar, I think
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Re: F4U single drop tank offset
« Reply #11 on: March 31, 2012, 09:35:02 AM »

As Bodhi noted the offset tank doesn't have enough effect to worry about.

Right, but that has nothing do with answering my question.


...which translates into if it has no effect in real life, it is modeled the same in the game which means it has little or no effect in the game.

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Re: F4U single drop tank offset
« Reply #12 on: March 31, 2012, 09:53:45 AM »
I remember being on VOX with Bodhi one day. He got going (as he usually does) and asks: "what did you do today?" I told him I went to work and had a pretty uneventful day. He replied: "well, I installed a windshield on a Corsair today". I felt like a lame arse after that.

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Re: F4U single drop tank offset
« Reply #13 on: March 31, 2012, 08:53:32 PM »

...which translates into if it has no effect in real life, it is modeled the same in the game which means it has little or no effect in the game.

I'm not wondering about game aspects at all.  I'm wondering WHY.  If the previous picture is a radar pod, it's still weight on the left side of the airframe, which supports the concept of a single side left droptank.  But the question is why?

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Re: F4U single drop tank offset
« Reply #14 on: March 31, 2012, 09:06:36 PM »
The weight of the tank (6.84 lbs/gal * 150gallons = 1026lbs)? About the same as a 1000lb bomb.