Bf-109 Training?

[Raphael]

  
Spit 16's are not a problem at all, when you fight a spit 5 in LW then there is a problem because most likely these guys know what they are doing.
but the only thing that I've learned from flying with JG5 in our uber rides is that they are to intimidating... a big percentage of our fights end up with the enemy going away.. I guess it's the Paint scheme. to scary.

Still, Dolby is za masta of the Emil and saves my butt more then I get to put holes in the enemy (not that we gang with our huge hoard). Might be just me but it seems the Emil is harder to aim (the cannons I mean) then the later models.

Then again back to my original point on my previous post
 

[Butcher]

Brody, in the 109E, you're not going to scissor with just about anything. Its just not going to happen.

You need to face Brody first, as akak pointed out in other threads - you might actually learn quite a bit from him.

[Debrody]

What came through from those films, youre planning the situations to use your good instanteous turn rate instead of the rolling, right? In the G/K when someone came behind me, i often used the "let him come, 2-3 quick snaprolls will make him overshoot anyway" tactic. It worked sometimes, when the opponent was a "runaway spit" type, they thought they got the edge and stayed just as long as i got behind them  : )

Maybe thats why you won the duels too, i was trying to set up my usual overshoot (what did not work, of course) and you could out-turn me easily when i was struggling.
Thanks, 

[Tank-Ace]

You need to face Brody first, as akak pointed out in other threads - you might actually learn quite a bit from him.

Sorry, but you're really just wrong in this case. !09E lacks the roll rate to really scissor effectively with much of the plane set.


And even if it were only a matter of skill, when comparing two planes, you HAVE to assume equal pilot skill. Otherwise you're not comparing the planes, you're comparing the ability of the pilots to exploit respective advanages and disadvantages.

[JOACH1M]

Sorry, but you're really just wrong in this case. !09E lacks the roll rate to really scissor effectively with much of the plane set.


And even if it were only a matter of skill, when comparing two planes, you HAVE to assume equal pilot skill. Otherwise you're not comparing the planes, you're comparing the ability of the pilots to exploit respective advanages and disadvantages.

Just because YOU can't roll the 109e doesn't mean EVERYONE else can't either!

[Tank-Ace]

No, but because the 109E rolls worse than most of the plane set, it will scissor worse than most of the plane set given equal pilot skill. Its turning might help it AFTER they reverse, but its not much help if they get caught in a crossing shot as they're trying to roll around for the reversal.


Say what you will about me, and I could fly the 109E decently, when you try and argue against set, solid preformance numbers, you're in a losing argument.

[RedBull1]

No, but because the 109E rolls worse than most of the plane set, it will scissor worse than most of the plane set given equal pilot skill. Its turning might help it AFTER they reverse, but its not much help if they get caught in a crossing shot as they're trying to roll around for the reversal.


Say what you will about me, and I could fly the 109E decently, when you try and argue against set, solid preformance numbers, you're in a losing argument.

You are not even actively playing, and haven't in a long time, and I highly doubt you were very good because a good pilot can make the Emil roll with ease.

[Tank-Ace]

I never said it can't roll, I said it can't roll as well as most of the plane set, which is unarguably true.


Come on people, things aren't black and white. Its not either something is incapable of rolling, or it rolls great. Learn to read, and acknowledge the middle of the spectrum, and you'll appear a lot smarter.

[Ardy123]

I haven't played the game in a while, and maybe there are a lot of new people who are very good at the 109, but back when I was playing a lot, I'd say that any one here looking for advice should give greater weight to posts posted by AoM members, DrSpeck and Jochim and few others over all the noise here.

[ACE]

Thanks ardy!  Remember that time I dove on you at in one reverse you taterd me   I was so mad lol

[ACE]

Oh and tankace..... The Emil can roll just fine with some rudder

[JOACH1M]

I never said it can't roll, I said it can't roll as well as most of the plane set, which is unarguably true.

have you ever heard of a snap roll? Every below average 109 pilot can do it, but then again your way below average so I guess in your mind your right.

Learn to read, and acknowledge the middle of the spectrum, and you'll appear a lot smarter.

Take your own advice sonny...

[LCADolby]

I haven't played the game in a while, and maybe there are a lot of new people who are very good at the 109, but back when I was playing a lot, I'd say that any one here looking for advice should give greater weight to posts posted by AoM members, DrSpeck and Jochim and few others over all the noise here.

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[Ardy123]

Thanks ardy!  Remember that time I dove on you at in one reverse you taterd me   I was so mad lol

If you talking about that time when it was only me on the deck over a base with 50+ red guys around, yeah, I remember, that was fun... I knew it was someone good when we got to scrapping.

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FYI, I was your best friend Tobias.....

[ACE]

If you talking about that time when it was only me on the deck over a base with 50+ red guys around, yeah, I remember, that was fun... I knew it was someone good when we got to scrapping.

FYI, I was your best friend Tobias.....

Yes I happen to be in a horde lol!  It might have been a furball then the brigade came