P-47d40 vs. P-47d25

[Slade]

Guys,

For Air Combat:

1. Are there any technical advantages to flying the  P-47d25 over the P-47d40?

2. What do you see as the major differences in between  the  P-47d25 over the P-47d40?

Thanks,

Slade  

[Citabria]

simple. the p47d25 with greebos new default skin with new specularity map makes the p47d25 the best looking jug.

because it is the best looking jug it flies the best.

I fly only the p47d25 when flying jugs because of this logic.

if your gonna jug... jug with style.

[RTHolmes]

I'll echo what fester said, although substituting Greebo's older but still gorgeous RAF camo skin

[Noir]

the D25 comes with a french skin and a white flag field mod.

[Slade]

Which plane do you feel turns better under 10k?

Which plane do you feel climbs better under 10k?

Thanks for answer non-skin related questions on this (though I like the skins!).

[4Prop]

D40 is better then the D25. as well as the D11,M, and N

[Oldman731]

For Air Combat:

1. Are there any technical advantages to flying the  P-47d25 over the P-47d40?

2. What do you see as the major differences in between  the  P-47d25 over the P-47d40?

It used to be that the D25 offered the biggest ordnance loadout (don't know why), so that people who wanted to bomb things took the D25.  Otherwise, given a choice, if you want the best performance I think you'd want the D40.  Taking the D25 instead offers you an extra challenge.

- oldman

[Citabria]

Which plane do you feel turns better under 10k?

Which plane do you feel climbs better under 10k?

Thanks for answer non-skin related questions on this (though I like the skins!).

jug doesn't turn.

jug doesn't climb.

jug doesn't like being below 10k... unless you are a master at suckering overshoots and getting a clear kill shot on them as they zoom by.

p47d25 has less powerful wep than p47d40. other than that and some rocket loading options they are about the same.

[4Prop]

jug doesn't turn.  - wrong

jug doesn't climb.

jug doesn't like being below 10k... unless you are a master at suckering overshoots and getting a clear kill shot on them as they zoom by.

p47d25 has less powerful wep than p47d40. other than that and some rocket loading options they are about the same.

d-40 and d-11 easily out turn a spixteen

[Lusche]

d-40 and d-11 easily out turn a spixteen

Please elaborate. I'd be very interested in learning how.

[4Prop]

Please elaborate. I'd be very interested in learning how.

flaps and throttle control. speed matters to. also rudder

[ink]

d-40 and d-11 easily out turn a spixteen

 

in my awesome sing song voice


he 's got high hopes........... he's got high hopes...higher then the sky hopes.....

[Lusche]

flaps and throttle control. speed matters to. also rudder

Still quite nebulous to me.

So let's get down to the numbers

The holy grail of AH Performance testing, Mosq's revised sustained turn list v2.07 gives tested values for the Spit 16 and the P-47 D-11 as follows:

No flaps:
Spit 16 (at 99% fuel)  605ft radius at 22°/s
P-47D-11 (with smallest gun pack and 25% fuel only) 737ft and 17.7°/s

Full flaps:
Spit 16 450 ft & 19.9°/s
P-47D-11 505 ft & 17.6°/s

So even at conditions very favorable to the D-11, the Spit still runs rings around it.

See also http://www.gonzoville.com/ahcharts/index.php?p1=p47d11&p2=spit16

[Citabria]

flaps and throttle control. speed matters to. also rudder

thats not turning. thats scissoring and attempting rolling reversals.

as I said... if you want to fly low n slow ina jug you need to master suckering overshoots and getting kills in the small window of opportunity as they shoot by.

if you miss once you might get a second chance. if you miss twice your dead.

the bright side is most of the MA grows a pair when they see a low jug so they will actually try to fight. unfortunately so will everyone else in icon range so you will need situational awareness and the ability to evade multiple enemies while you try to get snapshots on overshoots where you will be very slow.

[RTHolmes]

1 notch maneuvering flaps for the jug vs no flaps for the spit would be a fairer and more realistic comparison