ENY and Side Changing Rules

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nope 

you called that one

[guncrasher]

fixed

but did you notice the difference ink between people like you and people like butcher?  see you and a few guys do want to switch to fight.  but the majority of people who want to switch are like butcher.  they only want to switch to camp, pick or whatever.  as he himself proved it by his own statistics.  that's why I think the 12 hour limit is working.  yes it does sucks for the few people who actually will switch to help but the majority will be just switch to whichever country gives them the most kills.  it isnt about the fight, it's about the look at me I can land more kills.


semp

[Delirium]

Frankly, the only ones opposed to the country switch times being decreased are the ones that never change, no matter how lopsided the fights may be.

I'm not necessarily referring to overall numbers. For example, if one country is getting it from both sides, it can completely skew any fair fights even if the numbers are equal across the board.

[nrshida]

why will yoga help me start whining that I cant find any fights?

No one is whining. Going from 1 hour to 12 hours is not an insignificant change. It is legitimate to discuss the issue.

No, but Yoga might help you with your incredibly rigid thinking and inability to empathise.


We had the idea whilst flying last night. If this is a peak hour measure, why not set it at 1, 2 or 3 hours in off peak times, and one swap only in peak times?

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but did you notice the difference ink between people like you and people like butcher?  see you and a few guys do want to switch to fight.  but the majority of people who want to switch are like butcher.  they only want to switch to camp, pick or whatever.  as he himself proved it by his own statistics.  that's why I think the 12 hour limit is working.  yes it does sucks for the few people who actually will switch to help but the majority will be just switch to whichever country gives them the most kills.  it isnt about the fight, it's about the look at me I can land more kills.


semp

it honestly does not matter to me how anyone flies....or GV's for that matter...I do know sometimes I am stuck on the high number side and it straight up sux.

[matt]

 

[guncrasher]

No one is whining. Going from 1 hour to 12 hours is not an insignificant change. It is legitimate to discuss the issue.

No, but Yoga might help you with your incredibly rigid thinking and inability to empathise.


We had the idea whilst flying last night. If this is a peak hour measure, why not set it at 1, 2 or 3 hours in off peak times, and one swap only in peak times?

actually i know more than a couple of players who actually do switch to help the low side.  because I have flown with them many times.  what I dont like it's the thing that was happening before when lots of players would switch to horde with the vtards late at night.  when we got stuck fighting them 5 or 6 to 1 then you will understand why I would hate the change.  it's nothing personal if it was done right.  hell many a night I switched looking to get more kills.  and some of the guys that are really so pro "help the low side" I flew with them when we did nothing but switch because on the other side we could get more kills.

look at the numbers when one country is about to win the war.  more often than not the "wining" side gets more players while the other too all of a sudden have less.  and dont tell me the winning side called up the reserves while the other two countries people just gave up.



semp

[Butcher]

butcher last month you had 425 kills in a panther with only 5 deaths.  which means you camped a lot.  and you have the nerve to call me a picker? .  and by the way I dont bomb gv's.  i bring an Il2 and kill them.  just ask around.  and what does any of it has to do with not being able to find a fight?  and really you can look at me in the face and tell me that those 262 kills were actually in a 1v1 fight and not just picks?

butcher you dont seem to have a problem finding a fight based on the number of camped kills you have  you had 713 kills and 64 deaths.  you arent that good bro you are just a camper which isnt any different than a picker .

and ask around how i got those kills on the spit8.  none of them were vulchers or picks.


semp

Yep just a camper, please tank against me.

[Butcher]

but did you notice the difference ink between people like you and people like butcher?  see you and a few guys do want to switch to fight.  but the majority of people who want to switch are like butcher.  they only want to switch to camp, pick or whatever.  as he himself proved it by his own statistics.  that's why I think the 12 hour limit is working.  yes it does sucks for the few people who actually will switch to help but the majority will be just switch to whichever country gives them the most kills.  it isnt about the fight, it's about the look at me I can land more kills.


semp

I'm sorry you don't like me switching sides to kill your horde, I go against whatever country is hording. The most kills? Yeah you clearly are missing half of whats upstairs.

[guncrasher]

I'm sorry you don't like me switching sides to kill your horde, I go against whatever country is hording. The most kills? Yeah you clearly are missing half of whats upstairs.

how the hell can you kill our horde when you are in a tank?  you only switch to camp in your tank.  based on your last score.  dood you are the poster child of why the 12 hour should be changed to 24 hours.


semp

[Butcher]

how the hell can you kill our horde when you are in a tank?  you only switch to camp in your tank.  based on your last score.  dood you are the poster child of why the 12 hour should be changed to 24 hours.


semp

You clearly haven't even seen me play, this is evident with your completely wrong assumption of how I play then again with your lack of knowledge on history its clearly evident here you just make stuff up as you go along.

LT is the one who enjoys switching countries to camp - I am the one who switches sides to bomb him. Then again you wouldn't know that because you don't even tank, how many kills do you have in a tank per tour? 20? Yep you know as much as Tank-Ace in that department.

Try tanking an entire tour, you see why I sit in a Panther - 90% of tanks can't kill me, and when the bombs come I run away - don't like me camping? stop hording my base.

If you really want to see how I tank, I can drop you 10 or so Films of the last 2 tours - your assumption would change in a heart beat.

[guncrasher]

You clearly haven't even seen me play, this is evident with your completely wrong assumption of how I play then again with your lack of knowledge on history its clearly evident here you just make stuff up as you go along.

LT is the one who enjoys switching countries to camp - I am the one who switches sides to bomb him. Then again you wouldn't know that because you don't even tank, how many kills do you have in a tank per tour? 20? Yep you know as much as Tank-Ace in that department.

Try tanking an entire tour, you see why I sit in a Panther - 90% of tanks can't kill me, and when the bombs come I run away - don't like me camping? stop hording my base.

If you really want to see how I tank, I can drop you 10 or so Films of the last 2 tours - your assumption would change in a heart beat.

i have seen you play dood.  we hve flown many times together.  you arent the type that will go help the low guy being horded by somebody.  your thing will be to stay up so you dont die.

as for tanks you are a camper, plain and simple. as for your comment that if I dont like you camping dont horde your base?  really do I bring 30 or 40 tanks to take your base?  that is dumb.  if you see lots of planes coming in, you dont up a tank.  you up a plane either from the base that you are on or a near base.  but feel free to justify your camping because a base is getting vulched.  point is, you just want to switch to make it easier for you to camp.  it isnt about low numbers.  because if you up a tank over a base that is getting vulching you arent gonna get dozens of kills and only a few deaths.   justify it anyway you want, but you saying i vulch while there's plenty of proof that all you do is camp is stupid.

I'll vulch if it comes down to that, but at the same time I'll help whoever is low and slow anytime and there's plenty of knights that can say that.  but you cant say the same for your tank can you 

like I said before you are the poster child of why the 12 hour works.  really do feel sorry for ink and cal and other who do switch to help out.  but butcher you and lots of others are the reason why the 12 hour switch change works.  and you prove it tour after tour. 


semp

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i have seen you play dood.  we hve flown many times together.  you arent the type that will go help the low guy being horded by somebody.  your thing will be to stay up so you dont die.

as for tanks you are a camper, plain and simple. as for your comment that if I dont like you camping dont horde your base?  really do I bring 30 or 40 tanks to take your base?  that is dumb.  if you see lots of planes coming in, you dont up a tank.  you up a plane either from the base that you are on or a near base.  but feel free to justify your camping because a base is getting vulched.  point is, you just want to switch to make it easier for you to camp.  it isnt about low numbers.  because if you up a tank over a base that is getting vulching you arent gonna get dozens of kills and only a few deaths.   justify it anyway you want, but you saying i vulch while there's plenty of proof that all you do is camp is stupid.

I'll vulch if it comes down to that, but at the same time I'll help whoever is low and slow anytime and there's plenty of knights that can say that.  but you cant say the same for your tank can you 

like I said before you are the poster child of why the 12 hour works.  really do feel sorry for ink and cal and other who do switch to help out.  but butcher you and lots of others are the reason why the 12 hour switch change works.  and you prove it tour after tour. 


semp

I need to correct this...I Don't switch to "help" out the lower side, I don't care squat for the war, or any other aspect of AH...(bombing and GVing) I switch because I would rather fight red guys then green for my kills.....

[Butcher]

i have seen you play dood.  we hve flown many times together.  you arent the type that will go help the low guy being horded by somebody.  your thing will be to stay up so you dont die.
like I said before you are the poster child of why the 12 hour works.  really do feel sorry for ink and cal and other who do switch to help out.  but butcher you and lots of others are the reason why the 12 hour switch change works.  and you prove it tour after tour. 


semp

Ever since I joined TopGun in January I have been switching sides to help whoever is in trouble, sorry you are making up assumptions just because you have no argument to base it on frankly I will just call you a liar. What you really need to do is get off my case and blame people like LT who are the reason the 12 hour switch comes on, he's one who switches sides to camp, I haven't tanked much since January in fact I dropped close to 90% of sorties in a Tank, unless there is absolutely nothing else to do in the air I do still hop in a tank.

Before you make up more assumptions (as typical) Check my August to December Sorties in a Ground Vehicle, then check January to May - I go from 3,000 sorties to barely a 100 and even last tour I don't believe I even topped 75.

I have been increasingly frustrated by the hording, this is why I bounce Knights to Rooks - depending whose on offense and whose defending - Most in TopGun do this as well. What you don't see is fact we get stuck for 12 hours - and the fight does shift.
Prime example is the map split into three countries with the mountains in the middle - we switched countless times Rooks to stop the Bish in the south.

I think this tour were permantly staying Knights - again unless Knights are in a dead zone (Where the are neither attacking or defending), we will switch back rooks as usual for 12/24 hours. You probably don't even notice this, which is understandable.
If you had any clue what kind of squad TopGun is you'd agree with me, but not likely.

[Butcher]

I need to correct this...I Don't switch to "help" out the lower side, I don't care squat for the war, or any other aspect of AH...(bombing and GVing) I switch because I would rather fight red guys then green for my kills.....

We do just this, usually we stay knights unless they are in a dead zone with no opposition. In that case we go to whoever has the most red available for targets. TG are not base takers, we just look for a fight.

When I only fly 1 hour of a day, I rather switch for 12 hours and get a good hour fight in before logging off.