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Fw 190F-8/U1
« on: May 13, 2012, 11:17:21 AM »
I would like to request the 190F-8/U1. It would be really simple to add, as all it would require is adding a pair of 250kg eggs and DT's for the wings.

I imagine it would be implemented simmilar to the loadout options for the M3 (ie, all options on one rack), as they only carried a 250kg egg on the centerline when they had 2 250's on the wing, not the 500kg egg like our current biggest bomb for the F8.


While it wouldn't significantly increase the ordnance carrying capacity of the F-8 (only 50kg, or ~110lbs more), but what it would do is increase the number of usefull bombs carried. In most cases, a 250kg bomb is preferable to 4 50kg bombs.



So overall, we gain a lot of versatility that the F-8 has been a bit lacking in, all for a minimal ammount of work, and we lose nothing in exchange. Lot of benefit, no down sides.
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Re: Fw 190F-8/U1
« Reply #1 on: May 13, 2012, 11:34:37 AM »
Too bad it couldn't do the 500kg and the two 250kg bombs.
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Re: Fw 190F-8/U1
« Reply #2 on: May 13, 2012, 11:39:33 AM »
I think it could have, its just that it didn't. Unless HTC is fine with each individual option being correct, and the combinations being... sketchy, then we'll not see 1000kg of ordnance on the F-8.
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Re: Fw 190F-8/U1
« Reply #3 on: May 13, 2012, 11:49:36 AM »
Edited:

I ran across a few sections, it appears the F series did not carry larger then 50kg bombs on the wings, only Pzschr, PB1,2 Wfr. Gr. 28/32.

The F-8/U1 its showing a pair of 250kg on the wings - NO centerline bomb or Pair of 300 L Drop Tanks or pair of S 250.

Now this is sketchy to me, because I don't see why a G-8 model cannot carry 3x 250kg bombs.

« Last Edit: May 13, 2012, 12:00:11 PM by Butcher »
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Re: Fw 190F-8/U1
« Reply #4 on: May 13, 2012, 12:21:10 PM »
Do you mean 'why an F-8 model can't carry 3 250kg bombs', or are you talking about the actual G model?


I've seen pics with 3 bomb racks on an F model, centerline rack loaded, bombs waiting by the other two. Kinda suggests that they were gonna load those bombs on the wings. I'll try and dig it up.


EDIT: Heres support for a torpedo bomber variant (the /R14 IIRC).

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Re: Fw 190F-8/U1
« Reply #5 on: May 13, 2012, 12:33:41 PM »
I don't believe the torpedo was anything more than a trial.  It was never used operationally as I understand it.
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Re: Fw 190F-8/U1
« Reply #6 on: May 13, 2012, 01:49:22 PM »
Quote from: Karnak on May 13, 2012, 12:33:41 PM
I don't believe the torpedo was anything more than a trial.  It was never used operationally as I understand it.


Really? Damn, I was looking forward to torpedoing ships from a 190  :cry.
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Re: Fw 190F-8/U1
« Reply #7 on: May 13, 2012, 02:01:51 PM »
Quote from: Karnak on May 13, 2012, 12:33:41 PM
I don't believe the torpedo was anything more than a trial.  It was never used operationally as I understand it.

Yes, it was only trial. 
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Re: Fw 190F-8/U1
« Reply #8 on: May 13, 2012, 11:27:18 PM »
F models were ground attack, often with added armor depending on what variant number it was.

G models were long range, often employing droptanks and bombs in combination, but having no additional armor. G models had the cowl guns removed as well to increase range by saving weight, and had no outboard guns.

I believe some G models could carry 250kg outboard bombs and a DT centerline, but often you'd get 2 DTs outboard and a single centerline, similar to the Ju-87R-2, which carried 1 large bomb over very long ranges to hit targets otherwise untouchable.


Loading it out with 3x bombs, while "technically" possible was never done (as far as I recall), as the point was always to get less bombs to a target further away. Loading it out with all bombs decreased range and effectiveness.

So, technically yes, but operationally it wasn't really how they did it.
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Re: Fw 190F-8/U1
« Reply #9 on: May 14, 2012, 12:06:40 AM »
IIRC there was a thread not too long ago about P51s never carrying bombs and rockets at the same time.
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Re: Fw 190F-8/U1
« Reply #10 on: May 14, 2012, 01:14:12 AM »
Quote from: Tupac on May 14, 2012, 12:06:40 AM
IIRC there was a thread not too long ago about P51s never carrying bombs and rockets at the same time.

That was due to their need to carry DTs for the mission due to range ie; Iwo Jima to Japan.  So they went with DTs and rockets.
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Re: Fw 190F-8/U1
« Reply #11 on: May 14, 2012, 06:06:04 PM »
Quote from: Guppy35 on May 14, 2012, 01:14:12 AM
That was due to their need to carry DTs for the mission due to range ie; Iwo Jima to Japan.  So they went with DTs and rockets.

If P-51's can carry 1000lb bombs and rockets in AH, then no reason the F-8 shouldn't be able to carry 3 250kg eggs.
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Re: Fw 190F-8/U1
« Reply #12 on: May 14, 2012, 06:26:17 PM »
Quote from: Tank-Ace on May 14, 2012, 06:06:04 PM
If P-51's can carry bombs and rockets in AH, then no reason the F-8 shouldn't be able to carry 3 250kg eggs.

Show 1 photo of a F8 carrying 3 250kg bombs.
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Re: Fw 190F-8/U1
« Reply #13 on: May 14, 2012, 06:28:38 PM »
Photo of P-51 carrying 6 rockets and a pair of thousand-pounders.
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Re: Fw 190F-8/U1
« Reply #14 on: May 14, 2012, 06:30:23 PM »
Quote from: Tank-Ace on May 14, 2012, 06:28:38 PM
Photo of P-51 carrying 6 rockets and a pair of thousand-pounders.

That's not what you are trying to argue. Read up.
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