11.81@121mph

[FBDragon]

awesomen. if you've been taking pics of the progress, post a thread up here. stuff like that is fun as hell to see.....like vonmessa with his jeep.

Lol, you can go on the FREEBIRD website I think they still got my pics on there of the artwork I've done. I'm a airbrush artist too,  been doing that for 35 yrs now lol

[CAP1]

Lol, you can go on the FREEBIRD website I think they still got my pics on there of the artwork I've done. I'm a airbrush artist too,  been doing that for 35 yrs now lol

 airbrushing? where in florida are you again? 

 and where's the freebirds website?

 i wasn't meaning to be pushy about the build thread......it's just fun to see someone doing something different. and being as your car is rare, you're also doing it in such a way as to respect the car enough to return to original.

[CAP1]

i don't remember if i posted this video or not....but they talk to the legend himself.......http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzMr9WQc_LM&feature=related

 i'm still waiting for a 'ring time to be posted. there were rumors of the ones there last year going in the 7:30 range. this i think is feasible, as with this power, and straight line performance, the shelby only needs to be meadoricre in the turns.......it'll downright rape the blacktop coming out, and into the straights. the brakes are reported to have been improved enough that the driver should be able to brake pretty late going into the turns. this should let them go much much faster than anyone expects.

[FBDragon]

airbrushing? where in florida are you again?  

 and where's the freebirds website?

 i wasn't meaning to be pushy about the build thread......it's just fun to see someone doing something different. and being as your car is rare, you're also doing it in such a way as to respect the car enough to return to original.

Cocoa Beach fl. I've you go on the squad list click on one of them, not sure which one, and there is a link to the website
www.ah-freebirds.com is the site

[icepac]

Ring times are more about tires as of recent.

This is why the viper won't be sold with the tires they used to set the production car record.......which makes the time set by them to not really matter.

[CAP1]

they only matter for bragging rights in my eyes.

 the fact is that al op has pretty much said that the zl1 would beat the shelby in virtually every catagory.

 losses for the zl1 so far:
1)horsepower
2)torque
3)0-60
4)-=100
5)1/4 mile
6)fuel mileage

 next up is losing the ring time. 

[Ruah]

brainless win for the camero.  Who thought that a fixed suspension was a good idea in the 21st century? The accountants made that call not the mechanics.  Sure, lots of pros/cons for both sides here, but the camero has a lot more potential for tinkering because it can put more power to the tar.

But really, if i were going for an american car, i would get a vet.

[CAP1]

brainless win for the camero.  Who thought that a fixed suspension was a good idea in the 21st century? The accountants made that call not the mechanics.  Sure, lots of pros/cons for both sides here, but the camero has a lot more potential for tinkering because it can put more power to the tar.

But really, if i were going for an american car, i would get a vet.

vette in my opinion is a different market than the mustang/camaro.

 and are you sure that there's more potential? i'd think that gm would've gone for a knockout punch with this car........

[Gustav]

Hey Cap, My dad wanted to ask if you remember what happened when you took a hydraulic camshaft and set it to 0 lash.

(He did that to his 307 and was curious if people here remembered what that did.)

[CAP1]

Hey Cap, My dad wanted to ask if you remember what happened when you took a hydraulic camshaft and set it to 0 lash.

(He did that to his 307 and was curious if people here remembered what that did.)

it's been awhile, but i tend to set hydraulic cams with the engine running. i set them till i feel comfortable before starting. i've got 2 valve covers i've cut out. one for fords, one for chevys. i install this valve cover on one bank, start the engine, and slowly tighten the rocker down. i generally went till it juuuuuuuuusssssstttt stopped making noise, then about a half turn further.

 i know it doesn't sound right, but it's worked for me for years. the cut out valve cover keeps me from spraying oil all over the place.

 if you set them to 0 lash, before letting the lifters pump up, bad things happened if i recall. it's been over 20 years though, because i've been either using solid cams, or roller cams for that long.

[Gustav]

He laughed at the bad things part.

he noted that for him it just made it really really easy to over-rev an engine (The death of his 307 was from being over-revved one too many times)

[CAP1]

He laughed at the bad things part.

he noted that for him it just made it really really easy to over-rev an engine (The death of his 307 was from being over-revved one too many times)

this talk is almost making me want to go down to the basement, and rummage through my stuff. i've got blocks, cranks, heads.....pretty much everything i need to assemble a couple of really potent 289's. maybe if my part time help at the shop keeps kicking butt, i'll build one of them. 

[Gustav]

I know seeing this thread and hearing the stories from my pops, I would love to start some project once I got the money to do so (Maybe once I move out of Virginia..) 

[Shuffler]

it's been awhile, but i tend to set hydraulic cams with the engine running. i set them till i feel comfortable before starting. i've got 2 valve covers i've cut out. one for fords, one for chevys. i install this valve cover on one bank, start the engine, and slowly tighten the rocker down. i generally went till it juuuuuuuuusssssstttt stopped making noise, then about a half turn further.

 i know it doesn't sound right, but it's worked for me for years. the cut out valve cover keeps me from spraying oil all over the place.

 if you set them to 0 lash, before letting the lifters pump up, bad things happened if i recall. it's been over 20 years though, because i've been either using solid cams, or roller cams for that long.

That is the way I have done for years. Just as long as you know the lifters are all good.

[Shuffler]

this talk is almost making me want to go down to the basement, and rummage through my stuff. i've got blocks, cranks, heads.....pretty much everything i need to assemble a couple of really potent 289's. maybe if my part time help at the shop keeps kicking butt, i'll build one of them. 

I had a nicely built 289 in my 67 mustang.