It Got Bigggg Guns. Me410 on Front Page.

[Hap]

Doesn't the 410 have a worse wing loading than the 110, i.e. it won't turn as well?

And hang a ton or two of iron canon on it and a ton or two of 18" shells.

[B4Buster]

Hmm...aren't people allowed to be exited to fly it? Or what are you saying?

A light-hearted jab at the german iron fliers. Don't worry - english isn't your first language.

[bustr]

We have a fascinating ability to push aircraft in the MA to the edge of their manuvering envelopes to discover ways of using our aircraft the designers would probably not have sanctioned as SOP in a combat environment. But, we get perfict examples on every runway spawn along with perfict fuel and weapons.

Has anyone noticed with all three versions HTC has left the nose and lower nose view panels in place? How many of you raise your forward view up to see down and over the nose of your fighter? Now you just look down to see which way your con is turning.

If you can make a 110 dance and chew players up furballing, I'll wait to see what happens with this on 25% fuel and those MK103 in the hands of some of our unbeleivable furballers. As usual we beat the new ride to death with real world facts. Then find ways to fly it that leaves some of those facts waving in the breeze.

[Karnak]

In my opinion, the Me410 will dethrone the Mosquito Mk VI as having the best air-to-air armament in the game.  Currently the Me262 and Bf110G-2, but the ballistics are so poor that I think the four Hispano Mk IIs are better for fighter vs fighter work.  The Me410's MK103s change that.

[Volron]

We already have rockets that allow you, if employed correctly, to kill buffs from far beyond their effective range of defenses. Its a non-issue because there are only a select few who aren't totally useless with them. The BK50 can probably be put in the same box. If it gets out of control, add perks. No need to punish it beforehand.

I agree.

[STXAce8]

How much do you think we will have to lead when sniping bombers?

[B4Buster]

I'm sure there are sound guidelines or criteria for perking a ride. With the 410, as Lusche stated maybe the 50mm gun pack is perked, but the bird as a whole is not.

I could see the 50mm pack being a sniper in the MA. You fly around, 25k, pray you don't run into any fighters, hunting buffs. You see a random flight of B-24s/B-17s/Lancs, drop down in altitude, slow down a bit and park on their "6" at 1.5k and start taking shots at them. Short of 999000, no one touches you. Within minutes you've killed all three buffs, feel pretty good about yourself, 'lather, rinse, repeat' until a lone fighter shows up. At this point life changes.

If the above becomes common I think we see more buffs flying with a buddy for protection. That alone is worth it. If you want to kill buffs, gotta get through the escort first. Who knows but should be fun to see how it happens.

Boo

Boo, interesting point, but the bombers could themselves chop throttle. That 1.5K distance will quickly become 1K and less.

[Wmaker]

A light-hearted jab at the german iron fliers. Don't worry - english isn't your first language.

No worries, I understood it perfectly.

Just another quick, dumb knee-jerk reaction that wasn't quite thought through. This BBS is (unfortunately) full of likes of you who do it plenty.

[Volron]

Boo, interesting point, but the bombers could themselves chop throttle. That 1.5K distance will quickly become 1K and less.

It also causes them to mess up their rocket attack, pretty badly.

[B4Buster]

It also causes them to mess up their rocket attack, pretty badly.

Heh, never thought of that. I'm not familiar with A2A rockets though. Generally speed = life in a bomber, but there are a few situations when dumping some speed can help.

[Volron]

Heh, never thought of that. I'm not familiar with A2A rockets though. Generally speed = life in a bomber, but there are a few situations when dumping some speed can help.

It's in the timing too.  Timed badly, and you'll still catch a piece of it, otherwise they will explode harmlessly in front of you.  Most of the folks I encountered, ended up "dumping" their rockets the moment they noticed that I've chopped my throttle.  Most of them pressed their attack, with the common end result of coming in dead 6 to a formation of bombers.

[Acidrain]

Its perk cost will be roughly 30% less than a Mossie's or 25% more than a Bf110g2's whichever is greater.

[Lusche]

How much do you think we will have to lead when sniping bombers?

I made a rough graph some times ago, showing shell drop over distance. Axis' are not to scale:



German gun data was taken from original documents, I had a hard time finding any numbers for allied guns. I had to compute the .50 cal trajectory, but take that with a grain of salt...

[Ardy123]

I made a rough graph some times ago, showing shell drop over distance. Axis' are not to scale:

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German gun data was taken from original documents, I had a hard time finding any numbers for allied guns. I had to compute the .50 cal trajectory, but take that with a grain of salt...
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The Girl and the Robot(in the sig)

Snailman, likes Roeyksopp? I guess their darker album Senior would could fit the mood of a plane with armed to the teeth with guns... but then again, something way less cerebral like Accept's "Balls to the wall" would be more fitting....

[B4Buster]

No worries, I understood it perfectly.

Just another quick, dumb knee-jerk reaction that wasn't quite thought through. This BBS is (unfortunately) full of likes of you who do it plenty.

 

Yeah, you know me.