Unperk the F4U-4 (and others)

[danny76]

Keeping the main from becoming a 90% Me 262 / Tempest arena?

Unperk the whole plane set. I get killed by I16 as easily as by 262's and Tiffs.
Seriously dont see point of perking. other than to give the uberiest sticks the uberiest rides, and to keep the riff raff from all upping 262's

And if the I-16 poses the same threat to you as those ^^ two, you are in need of some serious training 

No amount of training can offset the drag of world class suckage

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And if the I-16 poses the same threat to you as those ^^ two, you are in need of some serious training 


No amount of training can offset the drag of world class suckage

don't sell yourself short....with this mindset that's all it will ever be.

[morfiend]

 If any of you were around when the Chog was unperked you'd know why both it and the 4hog are perked.The way people whine about the spit16 now would be nothing compared to what we'd hear if something like unperking the 4hog happened.

    Now if someone suggested a perk holiday,1 day a tour when perk planes were free then maybe I could get behind that idea,sort of like titanic tuesdays.

   Ink, perking every plane would be fine for someone like you or I but then HTC would have to offer X amount of perks for both 2 weekers and new subs. I've thought of this before but just couldnt come up with a fair way to implement it.



    

[Noir]

-1

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If any of you were around when the Chog was unperked you'd know why both it and the 4hog are perked.The way people whine about the spit16 now would be nothing compared to what we'd hear if something like unperking the 4hog happened.

    Now if someone suggested a perk holiday,1 day a tour when perk planes were free then maybe I could get behind that idea,sort of like titanic tuesdays.

   Ink, perking every plane would be fine for someone like you or I but then HTC would have to offer X amount of perks for both 2 weekers and new subs. I've thought of this before but just couldnt come up with a fair way to implement it.



    

best way would be to create an arena that had AI missions.......go on the mission earn perks, complete the required tasks earn more.....

don't ever see it happening, but think it would be a good way to get new peeps to learn the game a bit easier.

[morfiend]

best way would be to create an arena that had AI missions.......go on the mission earn perks, complete the required tasks earn more.....

don't ever see it happening, but think it would be a good way to get new peeps to learn the game a bit easier.

  Interesting idea,I've seen similar things in other games were you had to complete a training course in order to play online.

  The other thing to consider would be the whole eny. and obj. ratings for all the planes and GV's would need to be revamped not to mention what would happen if a player ran out of perks to use.

  Like I said I've thought about this before and it became a complex exersize in futility!




   

  PS: still think the perk holiday might spice things up!

[Slade]

Keeping the main from becoming a 90% Me 262 / Tempest arena

Perking is not perfect but I agree with the above quote.

-1 on unperking the F4u-4

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  Interesting idea,I've seen similar things in other games were you had to complete a training course in order to play online.

  The other thing to consider would be the whole eny. and obj. ratings for all the planes and GV's would need to be revamped not to mention what would happen if a player ran out of perks to use.

  Like I said I've thought about this before and it became a complex exersize in futility!




   

  PS: still think the perk holiday might spice things up!

I am thinking not just for being able to play online...but anytime you need perks you can go to the AI arena and join missions....to earn them.... if not able to earn them in the MA....

it is HTC's sandbox though so it is up to him to figure out how to make the most people happy.....generally I am very happy flying and dying.....I just don't understand the whole mentality of gang after gang....... huge overkill hoards......or run away as soon as they lose advantage....how sad is it when 4 cons hit the deck and run as fast as they can from a single con

[Butcher]

I remember when the Chog was unperked, however it was at a time when we only had 15 or so aircrafts to choose from? When it got perked and the La7 added everyone was flying it, or the n1k.

[Karnak]

I remember when the Chog was unperked, however it was at a time when we only had 15 or so aircrafts to choose from? When it got perked and the La7 added everyone was flying it, or the n1k.

Hmmm.

Fighters only, from memory:

A6M5b
Bf109F-2
Bf109G-2
Bf109G-6
Bf109G-10
C.202
C.205
F4U-1D
F4U-1C
F6F-5
Fw190A-5
Fw190A-8
Ki-61-I-Tei
La-5FN
N1K2-J
P-38L
P-47D-25
P-47D-30
P-51D
Typhoon Mk Ib
Seafire Mk II
Spitfire Mk V
Spitfire Mk IX
Yak-9T
Yak-9U

Looks like 25 fighters with the F4U-1C getting about 20% of the kills each tour.

[Butcher]

Karnak think it was before the N1K came out and La7 when the Chog flew unperked, then again I hardly remember heh.

[Karnak]

N1K2 was the first Japanese aircraft that added during beta, so definitely not before the N1K2.  It was before the La-7, which is why I didn't list the La-7.  

AH v1.0 list was:

B-17G
B-26B
Bf109F-4
Bf109G-2
Bf109G-6
Bf109G-10
C.205
C-47A
F4U-1D
F4U-1C (I think, but it might have been added in v1.01 or v1.02)
Fw190A-8
La-5FN
N1K2-J
P-51D
Spitfire Mk IX

[Lusche]

First steps in introducing the perk system were taken in Tour 14 (March 2001), F4UC was perked in Tour 16. N1K had been in game before that, the La-7 was introduced in Tour 14.


This is the complete planeset of tour 15, just before the F4UC was perked one tour later:

A6M5b
Ar 234
B-17G
B-26B
Bf 109F-4
Bf 109G-2
Bf 109G-6
Bf 109G-10 (K-4 today)
C-47A
C.202
C.205
Chute
empty
F4U-1C
F4U-1D
F6F-5
Fw 190A-5
Fw 190A-8
Fw 190D-9
Fw 190F-8
Gunner
Ju 88
La-5FN
La-7
Lancaster III
M-16
M-3
N1K2
Ostwind
P-38L
P-47-D25
P-47-D40
P-51B
P-51D
Panzer IV H
PT Boat
SeaFire
Ship Gunner
Spitfire Mk IX
Spitfire Mk V
Ta 152H
TBM-3
Tempest
Typhoon IB
Yak-9T
Yak-9U

[Lusche]

And this was the fighter situation before the perk system was introduced:

[Ack-Ack]

Arguable, but whatever.

It's not but then planes aren't really your strong point so I can understand why you didn't know.

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