Author Topic: Remove the fantasy - Ar-234  (Read 15356 times)

Offline Chalenge

  • Plutonium Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 15179
Remove the fantasy - Ar-234
« on: July 02, 2012, 03:49:29 AM »
I like the Arado. Love it actually. The designers really knew what they were doing! But I have a few problems with it as it is.

1) The Arado never had rear facing cannons. I fly this plane. I fly it without the cannons. It doesnt need them.
2) The Arado never flew in formations. Formations should be removed for this aircraft. It doesnt need them and the formations are only there for scoring. With the survivability of this plane it can make multiple trips just fine.
3) The Arado is not a bomber. The Arado is an attacker. I understand about the level bomber role being a possibility since the function was there to unstrap and use the sight and bomb. I also understand it was never done that way. The Arado was most often (I woud say always) used as a dive bomber (attack).

So this is a three way wish. Remove the guns. Remove formations. Add an attack role.

Add forward facing gunpods if you wish.  :D

 :salute
« Last Edit: July 02, 2012, 03:56:41 AM by Chalenge »
If you like the Sick Puppy Custom Sound Pack the please consider contributing for future updates by sending a months dues to Hitech Creations for account "Chalenge." Every little bit helps.

Offline Ruah

  • Silver Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 1083
Re: Remove the fantasy - Ar-234
« Reply #1 on: July 02, 2012, 03:55:15 AM »
I don't have all the literature to support your first wish (rear guns) but I do agree with the formations and attack score - personally I think this would be a good thing.  As it is, i have never seen a formation of 234s - always solo and always armed (and mind you, those rear 20s can be deadly!!)

Kommando Nowotny
I/JG 77, 2nd Staffel
Mediterranean Maelstrom
HORRIDO

Offline Chalenge

  • Plutonium Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 15179
Re: Remove the fantasy - Ar-234
« Reply #2 on: July 02, 2012, 04:00:57 AM »
See Lyrics contribution throughout this thread:

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,305406.0.html
If you like the Sick Puppy Custom Sound Pack the please consider contributing for future updates by sending a months dues to Hitech Creations for account "Chalenge." Every little bit helps.

Offline Noir

  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 5961
Re: Remove the fantasy - Ar-234
« Reply #3 on: July 02, 2012, 06:48:57 AM »
the 20mm's should indeed be removed, especially when you see how it is exploited with the F3 view...
now posting as SirNuke

Offline WWhiskey

  • Gold Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3122
Re: Remove the fantasy - Ar-234
« Reply #4 on: July 02, 2012, 08:57:38 AM »
Agreed  Lyric did some nice work there!!!
Sure would like to have that forward gun !!

Flying since tour 71.

Offline LCADolby

  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 7162
Re: Remove the fantasy - Ar-234
« Reply #5 on: July 02, 2012, 09:33:48 AM »
the 20mm's should indeed be removed, especially when you see how it is exploited with the F3 view...
It wouldn't require F3 if the periscope worked :old:
JG5 "Eismeer"
YouTube-20Dolby10
Twitch - Glendinho

Offline icepac

  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 6777
Re: Remove the fantasy - Ar-234
« Reply #6 on: July 02, 2012, 09:52:57 AM »
Apparently, NKL5 got a few or you guy's pelts.

Offline Spikes

  • Aces High CM Staff
  • Plutonium Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 15607
    • Twitch: Twitch Feed
Re: Remove the fantasy - Ar-234
« Reply #7 on: July 02, 2012, 10:27:43 AM »
I guess people are tired of getting owned by the 234. :)


i7-12700k | Gigabyte Z690 GAMING X | 64GB G.Skill DDR4 | EVGA 1080ti FTW3 | H150i Capellix

FlyKommando.com

Offline titanic3

  • Persona Non Grata
  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 4235
Re: Remove the fantasy - Ar-234
« Reply #8 on: July 02, 2012, 10:28:39 AM »
Never really had a problem with the 234...why change it?

  the game is concentrated on combat, not on shaking the screen.

semp

Offline LCADolby

  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 7162
Re: Remove the fantasy - Ar-234
« Reply #9 on: July 02, 2012, 10:36:19 AM »
I guess people are tired of getting owned by the 234. :)

(Image removed from quote.)

Everyone knows the 20mm can't move left or right.  :noid
JG5 "Eismeer"
YouTube-20Dolby10
Twitch - Glendinho

Offline Spikes

  • Aces High CM Staff
  • Plutonium Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 15607
    • Twitch: Twitch Feed
Re: Remove the fantasy - Ar-234
« Reply #10 on: July 02, 2012, 10:37:49 AM »
Everyone knows the 20mm can't move left or right.  :noid
I got asked a lot about that. Just my rudder movements badly timed with when I paused the film.
i7-12700k | Gigabyte Z690 GAMING X | 64GB G.Skill DDR4 | EVGA 1080ti FTW3 | H150i Capellix

FlyKommando.com

Offline Noir

  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 5961
Re: Remove the fantasy - Ar-234
« Reply #11 on: July 02, 2012, 10:53:11 AM »
I guess we all have different definitions of "ownage"

In any case, more realism can't be bad.
now posting as SirNuke

Offline Karnak

  • Radioactive Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 23046
Re: Remove the fantasy - Ar-234
« Reply #12 on: July 02, 2012, 11:28:19 AM »
Never really had a problem with the 234...why change it?
Because it isn't accurate.

Did anybody really have a problem with the .50s, bombs and rockets on the Spitfire Mk IX?  No, but they weren't accurate for that model of Spitfire Mk IX and thus were correctly removed when the Spitfires were updated.
Petals floating by,
      Drift through my woman's hand,
             As she remembers me-

Offline titanic3

  • Persona Non Grata
  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 4235
Re: Remove the fantasy - Ar-234
« Reply #13 on: July 02, 2012, 11:39:12 AM »
But I thought they did have rear 20mm?  :headscratch:

  the game is concentrated on combat, not on shaking the screen.

semp

Offline Karnak

  • Radioactive Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 23046
Re: Remove the fantasy - Ar-234
« Reply #14 on: July 02, 2012, 11:56:06 AM »
But I thought they did have rear 20mm?  :headscratch:
Per Lyric's data it never actually had them, just the technical ability to have them.
Petals floating by,
      Drift through my woman's hand,
             As she remembers me-