Bf-109F-4B Fighter-Bomber

[Bino]

Could we have the option to carry a bomb on the Bf-109F?   Thanks!

[Denniss]

An F-4B does not exist and never existed. All Bf 109 since the E-7 had the capability to carry bombs.

[Klam]

I just did a quick search and found this info;

 I'm not sure how accurate this information is.  Check out the link

http://www.historyofwar.org/articles/weapons_bf_109F.html   

It basically says that;

3 common field mods were used with the 109F-4.
   
   Rustatze (Field conversion kits)

   R-1  MG 151/20 cannon mounted under each wing
   R-5  A 300 litre drop tank mounted under the fuselage   (Is this a Rustatze mod' that we have in game or was it capable of carrying it as standard?)
   R-6  ETC 250 bomb rack for a 250Kg bomb

Some more digging around has to be done to validate any claims that it indeed carried a bomb.  Or that the Rustatze mods were carried out in sufficient numbers.
If the 300 L drop tank we have in game refers to the R-5 Rustatze then the R-1 and R-6 may be applicable.

 

[Lusche]

3 common field mods were used with the 109F-4.
  
   Rustatze (Field conversion kits)

   R-1  MG 151/20 cannon mounted under each wing
   R-5  A 300 litre drop tank mounted under the fuselage   (Is this a Rustatze mod' that we have in game or was it capable of carrying it as standard?)
   R-6  ETC 250 bomb rack for a 250Kg bomb

Some more digging around has to be done to validate any claims that it indeed carried a bomb.  Or that the Rustatze mods were carried out in sufficient numbers.
If the 300 L drop tank we have in game refers to the R-5 Rustatze then the R-1 and R-6 may be applicable.

Our F-4 used to have the R-1 option, but it was taken away logn ago when it was shown that it did see little (any?) operational use at all.

[Klam]

Probably before I started playing.  Although it was many tours before I got to fly the 109F-4

So the R-1 mod' was available but has been withdrawn from AH. 
I guess that the 300L drop tank ingame does refer to the R-5 mod'.

Rustatze R-6 bomb rack and 250Kg bomb would seem to be a valid addition.


I like the 109F-4 it would be nice to use it as an attacker.

[Bino]

Here are some photos of what appear to be F models rigged to haul a bomb.  I think the first two are likely F-1 or very early F-2 models, since they have the external stiffeners near the tail.  The third photo may be an F-4, because it seems to have a different supercharger intake...

[Butcher]

There's been some questions about having the 15mm and bomb option, I think it should be allowed after all it was used in russia.

[Devil 505]

There's been some questions about having the 15mm and bomb option, I think it should be allowed after all it was used in russia.

The mg 151/15 only saw use in the F-1 and F-2 models. Our F-4 is most similar a late F-4, with the deeper oil cooler under the nose.

[Megalodon]

I just did a quick search and found this info;

 I'm not sure how accurate this information is.  Check out the link

http://www.historyofwar.org/articles/weapons_bf_109F.html    

It basically says that;

3 common field mods were used with the 109F-4.
  
   Rustatze (Field conversion kits)

   R-1  MG 151/20 cannon mounted under each wing
   R-5  A 300 litre drop tank mounted under the fuselage   (Is this a Rustatze mod' that we have in game or was it capable of carrying it as standard?)
   R-6  ETC 250 bomb rack for a 250Kg bomb

Some more digging around has to be done to validate any claims that it indeed carried a bomb.  Or that the Rustatze mods were carried out in sufficient numbers.
If the 300 L drop tank we have in game refers to the R-5 Rustatze then the R-1 and R-6 may be applicable.

 

240 or so F-4 came from the W.N.F. factory with the R-1 modification and we used to have it till the silly little stink-in spit 5 got neutered....... it certainly wouldn't be fair to have a 109f with gondies  
Used to have the egg aswell

[Megalodon]

Our F-4 used to have the R-1 option, but it was taken away logn ago when it was shown that it did see little (any?) operational use at all.

 It was taken to make a fair match up for the spit 5 not because it didn't see use.... it saw plenty.

[Butcher]

The mg 151/15 only saw use in the F-1 and F-2 models. Our F-4 is most similar a late F-4, with the deeper oil cooler under the nose.

Sorry I haven't researched the 109F model lately, can the 151/15 be added to the late F-4? or is it strictly F-1/F-2 which is totally different variation and require a new remodeling for the F4?

[Megalodon]

F-4B

[Tank-Ace]

I don't see why HTC would try and make a 'fair match' for the spit 5, when the only place it matters (special events) we can put restrictions on their useage.

[Megalodon]

An F-4B does not exist and never existed. All Bf 109 since the E-7 had the capability to carry bombs.

E-4b

[Denniss]

Early E-series had a special B-model, these were special Fighter-bomber mods. This was not necessary anymore for E-7 and later as these were prepared to carry a DT or Bomb. They carried and ETC 500 bomb rack if used as FB.

The F-4/R1 was not a Rüstsatz, it was a Rüststand. This was a F-4 factory-built with wiring and attachment points for gondola cannons. I don't know whether they were actually delivered with gondolas or not. 240 were built by WNF.