410 vs Buffs tweek the balance?

[guncrasher]

man cockpits had bullet proof glass and yet nobody thought of adding them to the wings and the fuselage to make it tougher.  I wonder if wonder woman's plane was glass just to bounce bullets.


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[Karnak]

man cockpits had bullet proof glass and yet nobody thought of adding them to the wings and the fuselage to make it tougher.  I wonder if wonder woman's plane was glass just to bounce bullets.


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The bullet proof glass is very heavy, hence being limited to the forward screen on fighters.

[Shuffler]

The bullet proof glass is very heavy, hence being limited to the forward screen on fighters.

I may be up around Austin this weekend. I'll have to hunt down karnak.... muhahahahahaha.

Just ignore any large white chevy trucks in your vacinity that are being driven by an old ugly redneck guy.   

[Karnak]

Just ignore any large white chevy trucks in your vacinity that are being driven by an old ugly redneck guy.   

This is Texas.  You just described about 20% of vehicles on the road. 

[Shuffler]

This is Texas.  You just described about 20% of vehicles on the road.  

I know

This should help a little.................

[Krusty]

I really think it's gotta be a bug, though. Seems the pilot is 5x larger than the plane. In fact the ONLY time I took a hit and didn't die was from a con below and behind me in a prolonged tail chase. I figure he hit the tail more than the cockpit area.

[titanic3]

 

I've attacked a set of B17s from a dead 6 position and I got hit mutiple times, lost flaps and ailerons and oil, but didn't die.
I got HOed by a Typhoon and killed him, but not before losing oil and an aileron.
I got jumped by a F4U4 and took at least 3 bursts before going down.

I never caught on fire.
I never got insta pilot killed.

I have gotten PW but that was because I was being stupid and attacked buffs from dead 6. Never have I died from a hit that made me go  "", when I died, it was because I screwed up big time (like trying to TnB with a F4U-4 ). You guys must be in some unlucky situations. 

[M1A1]

Standard load out for .50 cal ammo carried by bombers was a mix of AP or API and tracer. .%0 cal will penetrate bullet proof glass. Put a burts of .50 cal from oh 3 guns what do you have 50 to 100 rounds hitting in generally same area so poof pilot wound and death. You wanna sit back there and snipe you deserve to take onhe in the head. Anyone who thinks .50 cal AP won't penetrate bullet proof glass can ask one of the gunners from my troop who had his knee blown off from a .50 round that went through bullet proof glass in a blue on blue mishap...

[Wmaker]

Do you have the image of the armor glass that the caption says is "above"?

Yeh, I'll post it when I get home. It shows a separate armored glass infront of the actual "windshield"/canopy. The description of the aircraft in the same book mentions that a 75mm armored glass was provided.

Something like in this EAW-mod:

[Charge]

"It might have been accurate but in real life the 50mm wasn't as effective as it is in game.  Pilots had to get in very close to the bombers to aim and fire the 50mm cannon and it had a tendency to jam after a round or two, unlike in here where you can snipe from over a thousand yards away and the gun never jams."

Add to that that the interceptor had to fly in turbulent slipstream of the bomber making the aiming even more difficult.

-C+

[Wmaker]

Here's the pic:

[Wiley]

Add to that that the interceptor had to fly in turbulent slipstream of the bomber making the aiming even more difficult.
-C+

No agenda question here-  Would following in a buff's wake at 1000 yards be turbulent?

Wiley.

[Alpo]

Just ignore any large white chevy trucks in your vacinity that are being driven by an old ugly redneck guy.   

This is Texas.  You just described about 20% of vehicles on the road. 

And 80% of the drivers...

 

[Karnak]

Here's the pic:
(Image removed from quote.)

Well, that doesn't look like it would be full protection, just head protection.

[Krusty]

There was protection below that glass panel, too. Most of the cockpit area was covered.

I still think it's a bug because even from dead 6 shots the round has to go through the tail, the rear gunner, the gunner's armor plating, the SEAT and headrest (often thick plating), and then kill you -- and it happens instantly before you ever hear a ping. You're just in the tower.


Hence why I cry foul.