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Offline surfinn

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more F4Fs
« on: August 14, 2012, 12:10:50 PM »
Right now we have the F4F and the FM2.  One very early AC and one late war AC.  There were may differant F4Fs between those two and I'd like to at least see the Martlet mkV put into service if for no other reason than to flesh out the FSO with more time realistic ac for the battles we fight there.

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Re: more F4Fs
« Reply #1 on: August 14, 2012, 12:25:37 PM »
I would rather see no new aircraft/variants added until all current models are upgraded to current design standards.
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Re: more F4Fs
« Reply #2 on: August 14, 2012, 12:29:24 PM »
Whats wrong with current models and why not do both at same time.

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Re: more F4Fs
« Reply #3 on: August 14, 2012, 12:30:19 PM »
Whats wrong with current models and why not do both at same time.
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Re: more F4Fs
« Reply #4 on: August 14, 2012, 12:33:41 PM »
Ill like not know also why they are you good enough
They are AH1 3D models and need to be updated.  The most common time that HTC adds new versions is when they are update the 3D models.  See the recent Ju87D-3 upgrade and addition of the Ju87G-2 for example.
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Re: more F4Fs
« Reply #5 on: August 14, 2012, 12:34:17 PM »
They are AH1 3D models and need to be updated.  The most common time that HTC adds new versions is when they are update the 3D models.  See the recent Ju87D-3 upgrade and addition of the Ju87G-2 for example.
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Re: more F4Fs
« Reply #6 on: August 14, 2012, 12:36:52 PM »
K got it but but we can still have both I think. Unless the argument is against the ac itself. I fly FSO every chance i get and id love to see some midwar F4Fs we could fly in there and other scenarios.

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Re: more F4Fs
« Reply #7 on: August 14, 2012, 12:39:52 PM »
why not do both at same time.

Splitting man-hours between updating old models and creating new planes makes each endeavour go slower. Concentrating efforts to get all old stuff updated to new standards would make everything in the game look more appealing, and would then allow maximum effort on bringing you new stuff to play with.
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Re: more F4Fs
« Reply #8 on: August 14, 2012, 12:46:34 PM »
Imadot
  If I'm not mistaken though you are talking about the way the ac looks superficially in the game and I would argue that, that is not as important as filling the huge gap the f4fs represent right now.

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Re: more F4Fs
« Reply #9 on: August 14, 2012, 01:03:44 PM »
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Re: more F4Fs
« Reply #10 on: August 14, 2012, 01:42:51 PM »
Imadot
  If I'm not mistaken though you are talking about the way the ac looks superficially in the game and I would argue that, that is not as important as filling the huge gap the f4fs represent right now.

I would argue that at this point, looks and consistency in airframe modeling is more important. New guys find the game, try it out...like the new models and cool stuff, jump in some of the older planes and puke in their mouths a little. They might not quit over it, but I would say it leaves them wondering what else is wrong.

While I agree there are gaps in planesets, efforts should be concentrated on getting all objects we have now levelset so the new stuff can start coming faster as HTC can stop splitting time between updating old stuff and adding new stuff.
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Re: more F4Fs
« Reply #11 on: August 14, 2012, 02:00:23 PM »
I would like to see the F4F-3 added when they update the current models. better performer than the F4F-4. The Navy went with the -4 because it had folding wings and could carry drop tanks. the two extra outboard-mounted guns really hamper performance.
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Re: more F4Fs
« Reply #12 on: August 14, 2012, 02:25:07 PM »
Have to disagree with you again Dot. I don't think the looks of your ac has much to do with the style of game play. I would also ask what do these two weekers have to compare it with?? What has better looking models and better flight characteristics than AH. Its certainly not Warbirds hell I left there to come to AH. AH is ten times better in all ways. Most of those try it out and leave due to the huge learning curve we have in this game and lets face the new gen wants instant gratification in all ways. They expect to be aces in a week because of the xbox mentality. Old graphics on ac have very little to do with this. A 57Chevy is still sexy even if its not in 3 d ;)

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Re: more F4Fs
« Reply #13 on: August 14, 2012, 03:24:33 PM »
I guess I'm just tired of flying blocky-looking old models, and seeing "new" planes being added that are just variants of airframes already in the game. I guess I'd be Ok with having NEW planes to fill actual gaps rather than just another variant of an airframe already in the game.

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Re: more F4Fs
« Reply #14 on: August 14, 2012, 03:26:46 PM »
I would like to see the F4F-3 added when they update the current models.

+1  Only add new models when updating old ones, please.
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