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Offline Lusche

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Re: 109 vs Spitfire
« Reply #15 on: August 20, 2012, 05:14:21 PM »
Quote from: LCADolby on August 20, 2012, 05:08:31 PM
Interesting stats, I'm surprised by the Spit5 vs F, because 1 on 1 the spit has the F by the Tojo.


I think they are very close:

    http://www.gonzoville.com/ahcharts/index.php?p1=spit9&p2=109f4

Top speed, climb rate & acceleration are almost identical, Spit has a slight edge in no flaps turning radius, at full flaps both are about the same again.

Spit has better views, and (for most players) the better guns. I do very much prefer the 109 armament though.
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Re: 109 vs Spitfire
« Reply #16 on: August 20, 2012, 05:23:12 PM »
Spit V, not Spit IX, vs Bf109F-4, Lusche.
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Re: 109 vs Spitfire
« Reply #17 on: August 20, 2012, 05:31:10 PM »
ooops

 http://www.gonzoville.com/ahcharts/index.php?p1=spit5&p2=109f4


In that case, f4 has speed & climb vs Spit's turn radius. Pretty much balanced, I'd say. And guns wise, the V suffers from a very short clip...
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Re: 109 vs Spitfire
« Reply #18 on: August 20, 2012, 05:42:25 PM »
With the numbers for the K4 v 14 matchup pilot choice is a big issue. Many of the ubber German sticks go with the tater queen, K4 so if you run into one you stand a decent chance of being introduced to Fester et al.

On the other hand, ubber Spit drivers don't seem to spend time holding onto that monster 14 engine. They seem to go in the Spit 8 or the Spit 5. At least that is what I've noticed.

While the K4 v 14 matches up by manufacturing and designer date, they don't match by skilled pilot choice. What about finding comparisons between the K4 v 5 and K4 v 8? Also, it seems more ubber German sticks choose the G2 over the G6. Not sure but it seems a pattern. Any chance of pulling out the rides for those ranked below 250? 50?

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Re: 109 vs Spitfire
« Reply #19 on: August 20, 2012, 05:48:22 PM »
Without Debrody flying the stats for the 109G6 are at a severe disadvantage  :old:
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Re: 109 vs Spitfire
« Reply #20 on: August 20, 2012, 05:52:10 PM »
Quote from: mthrockmor on August 20, 2012, 05:42:25 PM
With the numbers for the K4 v 14 matchup pilot choice is a big issue. Many of the ubber German sticks go with the tater queen, K4 so if you run into one you stand a decent chance of being introduced to Fester et al.

On the other hand, ubber Spit drivers don't seem to spend time holding onto that monster 14 engine. They seem to go in the Spit 8 or the Spit 5. At least that is what I've noticed.

While the K4 v 14 matches up by manufacturing and designer date, they don't match by skilled pilot choice. What about finding comparisons between the K4 v 5 and K4 v 8? Also, it seems more ubber German sticks choose the G2 over the G6. Not sure but it seems a pattern. Any chance of pulling out the rides for those ranked below 250? 50?

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I don't know of any 'uber' sticks in a k4.... they only fly spits....
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Re: 109 vs Spitfire
« Reply #21 on: August 20, 2012, 06:29:25 PM »
Quote from: Ardy123 on August 20, 2012, 05:52:10 PM
I don't know of any 'uber' sticks in a k4.... they only fly spits....

Doesn't the Gastropod fly the K4? Grizz did all the time. Many of the TopGun sticks (though I understand Dr Bone smells bad when he's drunk - apparently his girlfriend is both hot and very intelligent.) At least a few of these freakish types. No, for the Spit crowd you have to own Midway!  :x

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Re: 109 vs Spitfire
« Reply #22 on: August 20, 2012, 07:05:32 PM »
nvm.
« Last Edit: August 20, 2012, 07:07:44 PM by Krupinski »
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Re: 109 vs Spitfire
« Reply #23 on: August 20, 2012, 07:59:27 PM »
Quote from: Lusche on August 20, 2012, 05:31:10 PM
In that case, f4 has speed & climb vs Spit's turn radius. Pretty much balanced, I'd say. And guns wise, the V suffers from a very short clip...


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Re: 109 vs Spitfire
« Reply #24 on: August 20, 2012, 09:18:32 PM »
Quote from: mthrockmor on August 20, 2012, 06:29:25 PM
Doesn't the Gastropod fly the K4? Grizz did all the time. Many of the TopGun sticks (though I understand Dr Bone smells bad when he's drunk - apparently his girlfriend is both hot and very intelligent.) At least a few of these freakish types. No, for the Spit crowd you have to own Midway!  :x

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Yeah, I have heard of grizz, never met him, and I usually deal with Gastropods with salt or Ortho(tm), and putting top gun and ueber in the same sentence is an insult to ueber and the German language it was derived from.... but Midway... why dis jabber jaws, isn't he your fph?

Well being an avid spit 16 pilot, and the fact that all can be easily shot down by one, in itself makes it and the people who fly them the best... Why else would we want 150 octane fuel?
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Re: 109 vs Spitfire
« Reply #25 on: August 21, 2012, 06:56:08 AM »
In R/L the Spit and 109 were all but interchangeable. Only a very few expert pilots would, or indeed could, fly their fighters to the edge of the envelope like we do in AH, and it's only there... right at the edge, that the differences are pronounced. Of course we do it, but only because we don't really die when we screw up.
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Re: 109 vs Spitfire
« Reply #26 on: August 21, 2012, 07:16:17 AM »
Quote from: GScholz on August 21, 2012, 06:56:08 AM
Of course we do it, but only because we don't really die when we screw up.
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Re: 109 vs Spitfire
« Reply #27 on: August 21, 2012, 07:48:58 AM »
Quote from: GScholz on August 21, 2012, 06:56:08 AM
In R/L the Spit and 109 were all but interchangeable. Only a very few expert pilots would, or indeed could, fly their fighters to the edge of the envelope like we do in AH, and it's only there... right at the edge, that the differences are pronounced. Of course we do it, but only because we don't really die when we screw up.

 Very true, I go off line to fly planes until they fail and I get killed but I am back in the tower and up in another plane minutes later. As for the Spit 14 I find it almost imposable to get it out of a flat spin and it has some very bad habits it high speed turn. For me I think Spit 8 and 16 is by far the better of the three planes even if I am not really a Spitfire flyer. The 109F-4 and G-2 are my favorite 109s and in EW the F model ruled over the Spit 5 in good hands. My hands were not in the number lol. I think the three prettiest planes of WWII were the 109s Spitfires and the P-51.
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Re: 109 vs Spitfire
« Reply #28 on: August 21, 2012, 08:15:17 AM »
Quote from: bozon on August 21, 2012, 07:16:17 AM
Every time I get shot down by acks I die a little inside.

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Re: 109 vs Spitfire
« Reply #29 on: August 21, 2012, 12:36:03 PM »
Honestly im still waiting for those who used to say that spits are inferior to the 109   ;)
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