ammo bunker

[DarkHawk]

I would like to see a requirement for destruction of the ammo bunker, requiring at least 2000 lb bomb hit to destroy  the bunker. What we have here is a concrete encased bunker that no 20 or 30 millimeter  round could penetrate. Some will say that the door, steel encased, could be hit. You would be hitting a 3 by 7 foot target at over 300 mph, At least these would be more of a harder target to hit. Now a single plane can take out ords, and radar on a small air field even with 3 or 4 defenders trying to kill him.
Slam On

DHawk 
 

[Karnak]

What advantage do you see in your suggested change?

[Lusche]

All structure damage & hardness values are not much set for realism, but for gameplay purposes. Just see how much more MG rounds do hurt buildings vs bombs and rockets, pund for pound.

If you want to make a request for a change in that area, you might better lay down how it would change the gameplay dynamics to the better. 

[Noir]

he does have a point on saying that a single porker can destroy ord and radar alone, while being nearly unstoppable.

[Johan]

Well, considering this game tries to be accurate in aircraft and gv characteristics, the ord bunkers (as well as buildings) should be the same.

Quantico Marine Corp base has been there since WWII. I have been inside their ords bunkers. 2 feet thick reinforced concrete covered with 4 feet of earth. The door in fact is a blast door. There is absolutely no way a 20mm,30mm, 37mm or 50mm could destroy these bunkers.

Game dynamics? How about realistic simulation realism.

[EagleDNY]

+1 - the reason you put ammo in a "bunker" in the first place is to protect it.  With the settings we have now, we might as well have the graphic of base ammo storage be a small tin shack instead of a hardened concrete bunker.
Some structures should take NO damage from small caliber fire - the ammo BUNKER is one of them. 

[RngFndr]

Ammo Magazines are made with very thick walls, and a Thin Roof..
To direct the blast upward in case of catastrophic detonation..
That's the way they are made... Always have been!

Besides, ever see pics of the Bomb farms around Fields in Britain during WW2??
Stacks and Stacks and Stacks of them, under nothing but camo net!

Around any field, from any country, anywhere in a combat zone, for that matter!

[USRanger]

RLTW Johan.

[Lusche]

Game dynamics? How about realistic simulation realism.

So we shouldn't care about impact on gameplay? Doesn't matter as long it meets some standard of 'realism'?

[RngFndr]

The hangers and Bunkers are all "representations" for gaming purposes..
Do ya think blowing up the hangar, destroys all the fighters, "in Reality"???
Heck no, in reality, they'd be spread all over the place so you
can't get more than one at a time..

Took me a little while to grasp this point as well..
It needs to be that way!

[Ack-Ack]

At least our ammo dumps are in bunkers in this game. 

ammo dump at a USAAF base in England during WW2.  Ordnance crews are getting the bombs ready for the next day's mission.


Another ammo dump at a USAAF base in England


Ammo dump at a USAAF base in Kanchrapara, India during the war.


Ammo dump at a RAF Bomber base in England



ack-ack

[RTHolmes]

the smaller WWII bases around here had (a couple still have) earth mounds around the ords. the ords were on palettes in crates, under tarps. Ive seen pics of the same from all over the world.

[smoe]

Or how about a large secondary explosion when the ammo bunker is hit?

[RTHolmes]

Or how about a large secondary explosion when the ammo bunker is hit?

+1



(and for hits on ships too )

[icepac]

I'm going to do some ord strafing in a c202.