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Offline danny76

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Re: Gun control laws do they work ?
« Reply #585 on: September 01, 2012, 04:34:45 PM »
I knew someone in Liverpool who was a complete idiot, he had lots of guns was fat and had a moustache.

I  was not fit to have a spoon :old:



Aah, now see fatness is not a instant qualification for civil rights. But ability ti purchase enough pies to get to lardy proportions may have bearing on how many rights you are entitled to :old:
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« Reply #586 on: September 01, 2012, 05:46:19 PM »

 I would like to see the government provide firearms training to anyone wanting it for free.


they do provide free training,  join the army, marines, national guard, navy, coast guard.  heck they even pay you for the training plus you get some money for college too.


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« Reply #587 on: September 01, 2012, 06:27:33 PM »
So stupid people have rights?

Yes Zack, you have rights......  :t
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« Reply #588 on: September 01, 2012, 06:30:24 PM »
they do provide free training,  join the army, marines, national guard, navy, coast guard.  heck they even pay you for the training plus you get some money for college too.


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I know you say that tongue in cheek, but to avoid the confusion of others, the average housewife, and a 60 year-old male first time gun owner won't qualify for that training. 
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« Reply #589 on: September 01, 2012, 06:36:02 PM »
Are stupid people equal?



All are born equal, even the stupid. There's no promise of equal outcomes.
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« Reply #590 on: September 01, 2012, 07:03:46 PM »
I know you say that tongue in cheek, but to avoid the confusion of others, the average housewife, and a 60 year-old male first time gun owner won't qualify for that training.  

I thought you were against less government and not more.  but to be honest do you really want a new department of gun training with 1 million employees to provide free gun training to everybody? even to criminals?  wouldnt it be cheaper to just go to an nra approved class course?  and if you say it's because they cost money, well somebody it's gonna pay for the trainers anyway.

when I learned to drive, I didnt wait for a free government class to teach me how.  if you want to own a gun then it's your responsibility to learn to use it.





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Re: Gun control laws do they work ?
« Reply #591 on: September 01, 2012, 07:04:45 PM »
I don't know, that is still like a 24" spread with full choke.  Think I would rather stick to a .22.  Less chance of needing some dental work after some good stew.    :D
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Re: Gun control laws do they work ?
« Reply #592 on: September 01, 2012, 07:14:27 PM »
Its cultural you like having guns so you have them, this bill of rights to own a gun is nonsense.

There is no bills of rights to own big fat cars with 4x4 drive but you still have them because its exspected. (4X4 are for off road fact) (Guns are for shooting things and crimminals) not to uphold your rights its childish and immature to say that.

Just say I like guns

Like I have said on numerous occassions if I was a Yank I would lots of guns becaue I could, and a bit fat car.

You are not going to be "Minute Men" to defend yourselves from "THEM" who ever you are.

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Childish? You're an idiot. You have an opinion which is based on 2nd hand information. We know what we believe because of our country's history. You Know what you Know about your country. We Know what we know about ours. If you think that government are respectful of their populace because they are just nice people...? Look at history. Gov'ts which are not forced to respect the rights of their populace, always abuse their rights. Japan's WWII generals knew better than to attack our mainland because every home had a gun... ours doen't push it to hard because we will remove them from power if they try!!!  :salute :old: Live Free or Die!  :ahand
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« Reply #593 on: September 01, 2012, 07:22:12 PM »
I was at a lock-in at the local when I was 15, one of the poachers came in (looked like he'd had a good night) and we got chatting. he used to take pheasant from the duke of marlboroughs estate so we were asking him what his favorite method was (I guessed air rifle - nice and quiet). his answer - "I use a putter - pheasant are dozy ****s, specially at night"  :lol
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Re: Gun control laws do they work ?
« Reply #594 on: September 01, 2012, 07:22:20 PM »
Childish? You're an idiot. You have an opinion which is based on 2nd hand information. We know what we believe because of our country's history. You Know what you Know about your country. We Know what we know about ours. If you think that government are respectful of their populace because they are just nice people...? Look at history. Gov'ts which are not forced to respect the rights of their populace, always abuse their rights. Japan's WWII generals knew better than to attack our mainland because every home had a gun... ours doen't push it to hard because we will remove them from power if they try!!!  :salute :old: Live Free or Die!  :ahand

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« Reply #595 on: September 01, 2012, 07:31:32 PM »
Childish? You're an idiot. You have an opinion which is based on 2nd hand information. We know what we believe because of our country's history. You Know what you Know about your country. We Know what we know about ours. If you think that government are respectful of their populace because they are just nice people...? Look at history. Gov'ts which are not forced to respect the rights of their populace, always abuse their rights. Japan's WWII generals knew better than to attack our mainland because every home had a gun... ours doen't push it to hard because we will remove them from power if they try!!!  :salute :old: Live Free or Die!  :ahand

You honestly believe that the same nation that were prepared to arm women and children with sharpened bamboo in order to fight off an allied invasion of their homeland, and fight a hopeless cause until their positions were burned out with flamethrowers, and commit mass suicides with grenades, guns, knives, swords, really were frightened off by an armed citizenry? Do you really believe that Japan had the military or political will to be able to invade the U.S  at all??? Due respect Sir. Remove your head from your posterior
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« Reply #596 on: September 01, 2012, 07:37:05 PM »
You honestly believe that the same nation that were prepared to arm women and children with sharpened bamboo in order to fight off an allied invasion of their homeland, and fight a hopeless cause until their positions were burned out with flamethrowers, and commit mass suicides with grenades, guns, knives, swords, really were frightened off by an armed citizenry? Do you really believe that Japan had the military or political will to be able to invade the U.S  at all??? Due respect Sir. Remove your head from your posterior

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« Reply #597 on: September 01, 2012, 07:44:29 PM »
You honestly believe that the same nation that were prepared to arm women and children with sharpened bamboo in order to fight off an allied invasion of their homeland, and fight a hopeless cause until their positions were burned out with flamethrowers, and commit mass suicides with grenades, guns, knives, swords, really were frightened off by an armed citizenry? Do you really believe that Japan had the military or political will to be able to invade the U.S  at all??? Due respect Sir. Remove your head from your posterior

Thanks for clearing that up. YES! but early in the war before they got so desperate. Also it was the generals who were quoted as not wanting to attack the mainland...& really the smart ones in charge is all that really matters.  :D as for the position of my head I was looking in there to pull yours out!   :ahand

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Re: Gun control laws do they work ?
« Reply #598 on: September 01, 2012, 08:00:44 PM »
Thanks for clearing that up. YES! but early in the war before they got so desperate. Also it was the generals who were quoted as not wanting to attack the mainland...& really the smart ones in charge is all that really matters.  :D as for the position of my head I was looking in there to pull yours out!   :ahand

Admiral Isoroku Yamamoto - “You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind each blade of grass.”


I believe Isoroku Yamamoto was commentint on the US will to fight rather than the proliferation of firearms through the country, bearing in mind, that at the time, Russia, Britain, Scandinavia, China, and pretty much every country that had discovered fire were awash with privately owned firearms.
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Re: Gun control laws do they work ?
« Reply #599 on: September 01, 2012, 08:03:32 PM »
I'm pretty sure I mentioned this topic beforehand......


"They would be afraid blah blah" - It's got nothing to do with them being afraid. It's got to do with being able to have enough man power and supplies. They had their hands full just |)1[king around in SEA.

Like, ya know, when that thing that makes you move, it has pistons and things, When your thingamajigy is providing power, you do not hear other peoples thingamajig when they are providing power.

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