Gun control laws do they work ?

[mtnman]

these guys had guns at their house to protect them against intruders.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/california-man-wanted-murder-india-kills-wife-children/story?id=16533835

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/11/sheriff-colo-man-kills-2-_n_1586023.html

http://articles.nydailynews.com/2012-05-23/news/31829693_1_eviction-loan-modification-foreclosure-sale

http://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Ohio-man-kills-wife-and-daughter-then-himself-3740024.php


there's always two sides to every coin.  some guns are used to protect our familes and some are used to end it.  I just wonder the hell is wrong with us that we must do crap like this to strangers and family alike.


semp

Reading through the articles, I don't see it.  Where does it say that's the reason they had firearms?

Were they guns they had previously, or could they have purchased them recently intending to commit criminal acts?

If they didn't own the firearms, would everyone still be alive?

[LCADolby]

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Top Pic looks like your playing air guitar 

[W7LPNRICK]

It is rather odd how we have gone onto the War.

Had it not been for the Japanese and Pearl Harbor bringing the USA into the war, FDR would have been impeached for war mongering because he was allowing arms to be sent to the UK while the USA were holding a neutral stance officially. FDR was a good man for putting himself at such a risk so do what he could against nazi tyranny, while a greater number of Americans were happy with isolationism and indifferent to Nazi conquest of Europe.

FDR

True, but most adult Americans were still feeling the leftover effects of WWI & some felt they let Hitler's Germany go un-checked for years after they had already provided proof they violated the treaty & did nothing....  Apathy early on was their enemy. 

[Shuffler]

or maybe just enforced the idea that the closest to you are the ones that will cause you the most harm, so having your dad have a gun to protect you might not be as safe for you as you think you are.


semp

There are idiots in all walks of life. Making guns illegal will just reinforce their numbers.

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Top Pic looks like your playing air guitar 

 

he was trying to get away....surprisingly strong for such a small gator....

makes me think when I took part in piercing a nurse Shark's Dorsal fin...took four of us to hold the thing down....it was barely over 2 feet long....incredibly strong, that thing was.

[Widewing]

in the bottom pic why do you keep em in antifreeze?  Are they just pets or  yyou planning on doing something with e,m?

The gators are in the anti-freeze to keep the dog from drinking it....

[guncrasher]

There are idiots in all walks of life. Making guns illegal will just reinforce their numbers.

I dont want guns made illegal.  but it was food for thought.  somebody pointed out that those people who got slaughtered in Europe should have had a gun.  on the other hand those who had guns at home choose to use them on their own family.  it turns out that those who got killed over there were killed by family members also.  that's messed up.

my point is that we are really are messed as a  species, like they say, we always have been, we always will.  but at some point I hope we may want to  change.

back to the op, gun control laws they don't work.  lack of gun control laws don't work either.  it's a never ending circle.

semp

[Puma44]

back to the op, gun control laws they don't work.  lack of gun control laws don't work either.  it's a never ending circle.

That is because it has nothing to do with guns.  It is the people that use a gun as a tool to hurt another person.  Controlling or outlawing guns is not going to stop that intent.  What about kitchen knives, baseball bats, hammers, crow bars, rocks, and the myriad of other things that people have used to hurt each other?  "Control laws" for all of those "weapons" are not going to stop human nature and it's capacity to harm another. 

[Dago]

Gun laws create unarmed victims.  Period.

Criminals do not heed gun laws.

[Puma44]

So true. 

[TonyJoey]

That is because it has nothing to do with guns.  It is the people that use a gun as a tool to hurt another person.  Controlling or outlawing guns is not going to stop that intent.  What about kitchen knives, baseball bats, hammers, crow bars, rocks, and the myriad of other things that people have used to hurt each other?  "Control laws" for all of those "weapons" are not going to stop human nature and it's capacity to harm another. 

You can't kill/injure dozens of people per minute with baseball bats, hammers, crowbars, or rocks. Also some food for thought.

[mtnman]

You can't kill/injure dozens of people per minute with baseball bats, hammers, crowbars, or rocks. Also some food for thought.

Nope, but there are other ways to do that, that have nothing to do with guns.

The way to control violence is to control violence.  Controlling violence has nothing to do with controlling guns.

[Maverick]

You can't kill/injure dozens of people per minute with baseball bats, hammers, crowbars, or rocks. Also some food for thought.

Multiple thousands were killed using box cutters. The first attempt was done with explosives.

More than a hundred were killed using fertilizer and diesel fuel in Oklahoma.

It's not the tools that are the problem. It is the person(s) who use the tool that is.

Punishing many who never caused any problem does not deter the individual who is determined to hurt or kill others.

[Puma44]

You can't kill/injure dozens of people per minute with baseball bats, hammers, crowbars, or rocks. Also some food for thought.

Obviously, you missed the point by a wide margin.

[TonyJoey]

Obviously, you missed the point by a wide margin.

No, you've repeated the sentiment of "if there's a will, there's a way" multiple times. However, I just brought up the idea that guns make it very easy to do a lot of damage; a lot easier than anything you mentioned.