Gun control laws do they work ?

[guncrasher]

Multiple thousands were killed using box cutters. The first attempt was done with explosives.

I didnt know that the hijackers jumped off the plane and went off on a killing rampage using box cutters at the world trade center, have you been talking to YOU?



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[danny76]

I didnt know that the hijackers jumped off the plane and went off on a killing rampage using box cutters at the world trade center, have you been talking to YOU?



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Don't be obtuse. The point was valid.

[guncrasher]

Don't be obtuse. The point was valid.

no it was lots of things that made it possible for just box cutters to be the only thing that was used but what killed most of the people wasnt box cutters it was airplanes full of fuel that did it. 

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[Shuffler]

no it was lots of things that made it possible for just box cutters to be the only thing that was used but what killed most of the people wasnt box cutters it was airplanes full of fuel that did it. 

semp

Box cutters set it all in motion.... without those... no murder.

[guncrasher]

Box cutters set it all in motion.... without those... no murder.

no it was the people holding the box cutters.  box cutters dont kill people.  people flying airplanes into buildings do.



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[sunfan1121]

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[Big Rat]

For some reason I don't feel like been slaughtered like a sheep by a criminal.  I also don't feel like being outgunned by a criminal, or a corrupt government for that matter.  I don't want my wife in either of those situations either.  If you have ever been in a situation where life was in danger and you were truly powerless, its one of the worst feelings ever.  I try to avoid that if at all possible, be it out or at home.  Being well armed and well trained is one way to avoid this.  Gun control is as silly as banning alcohol so we don't have drunk drivers. 

Granted I do believe there should be some limits, most of which are already in place.  Full autos are very hard to get legally and very expensive to get, as it should be.  Full auto fire is far over rated anyway in almost all usefull apllications except pinning opponents.  Same goes for any sort of area weapon, hard to justify for self defence. Should my AR's have 30rd mags, sure, the criminals will have them if possible.  In a fire fight with 10 round mags with someone with a 30 is a very bad thing, even if I'm having a good day with 2-3 second reloads.  3 seconds would still get me and my wife killed in a close fight, if she wasn't armed at the time.

I do believe that all gun owners should recieve some sort of training, either free or low cost before owning a firearm, beyond that is up to the owner.  But I think this would help a lot of the accidental home shootings that are usually the most tragic.  And it should be everybody that comes into contact with the weapon, should go through this class.  Much like having driver's ed. for a gun.

 
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[Puma44]

No, you've repeated the sentiment of "if there's a will, there's a way" multiple times. However, I just brought up the idea that guns make it very easy to do a lot of damage; a lot easier than anything you mentioned.

Again, you miss the point.

[Maverick]

Again, you miss the point.

He and a couple others do so intentionally.

[TonyJoey]

 

Again, you miss the point.

Please spell it out then.

[Puma44]

Please spell it out then.

B E  P R E P A R E D.   E I T H E R   B E   A  S U R V I V O R  O R   B E  A  V I C T I M.

He and a couple others do so intentionally.

Apparently so.  To what end, who knows?

[guncrasher]

Should my AR's have 30rd mags, sure, the criminals will have them if possible.  In a fire fight with 10 round mags with someone with a 30 is a very bad thing, even if I'm having a good day with 2-3 second reloads.  3 seconds would still get me and my wife killed in a close fight, if she wasn't armed at the time.

 
BigRat           

where the hell do you live that you need that kind of firepower to survive?  it is rare for people to bring fully automatic weapons to break into a home.  I can understand for a liquor store or something like that, but for a home?  do you have like millions of dollars worth of stuff in your house that will tempt somebody to do a military type operation for you?

most criminals will turn around as soon as they hear shots coming their way.  they're there to get something easy to steal not to shoot it out.

I understand being prepared, but I refused to live in fear like most paranoid (cant think of a better word) people do.  I have hand guns in my house one in my desk and one in my drawer next to my bed but I dont feel the need to have hundreds of rounds next to each one.



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[4Prop]

where the hell do you live that you need that kind of firepower to survive?  it is rare for people to bring fully automatic weapons to break into a home.  I can understand for a liquor store or something like that, but for a home?  do you have like millions of dollars worth of stuff in your house that will tempt somebody to do a military type operation for you?

most criminals will turn around as soon as they hear shots coming their way.  they're there to get something easy to steal not to shoot it out.

I understand being prepared, but I refused to live in fear like most paranoid (cant think of a better word) people do.  I have hand guns in my house one in my desk and one in my drawer next to my bed but I dont feel the need to have hundreds of rounds next to each one.



semp

semp I have 2 AR15s both with 6 30 RD mags each.1 of them I shouldnt even have. and a few rifles I could hit a baseball at 1100 yrds with. I hope that I wouldnt have to use them on US soil but its still better to have it and not need it than need it and have it

[sunfan1121]

where the hell do you live that you need that kind of firepower to survive?  it is rare for people to bring fully automatic weapons to break into a home.  I can understand for a liquor store or something like that, but for a home?  do you have like millions of dollars worth of stuff in your house that will tempt somebody to do a military type operation for you?

most criminals will turn around as soon as they hear shots coming their way.  they're there to get something easy to steal not to shoot it out.

I understand being prepared, but I refused to live in fear like most paranoid (cant think of a better word) people do.  I have hand guns in my house one in my desk and one in my drawer next to my bed but I dont feel the need to have hundreds of rounds next to each one.



semp

Where I live automatic weapons are quite common. We did infact take a few AR15's with us last weekend for the dove hunt in Douglas AZ. Not all of America smells like roses.

[Flench]

Just put in for my concealed carry permit today. Should have it within 45 days. 

Been 40 days and I still don't have mine but as long as it's not consealed I don't need it .