Gun control laws do they work ?

[sunfan1121]

most people dont live on the border.


semp

My point is cookie cut gun laws will never work. I think you can agree with that.

[coombz]

Ya you can have as many rounds per clip as you want as long as you promise to only shoot non-whites     That'd probably pass muster with most of the redneck brigade

[DaveJ]

Ya you can have as many rounds per clip as you want as long as you promise to only shoot non-whites   

 

The ranchers living on the border live in close proximity to some of the most violent drug gangs on earth. No government or man should be able to dictate to him how he can defend his life, his family, and his property.

[coombz]

The ranchers living on the border live in close proximity to some of the most violent drug gangs on earth. No government or man should be able to dictate to him how he can defend his life, his family, and his property.

because what hardcore drug smuggling organisations want most of all is to call attention to themselves and their operation by attacking ranchers

[sunfan1121]

because what hardcore drug smuggling organisations want most of all is to call attention to themselves and their operation by attacking ranchers

It happens every day. The cartels control the desert.

[guncrasher]

My point is cookie cut gun laws will never work. I think you can agree with that.

No, what I agree on is that laws or no laws isnt the answer.  but the willingness to change our society is what will keep us safe.  but not many are really willing to change the way we think and act, and I mean that as a nation.  but that isnt going to happen.  200 years ago we kept guns to keep us safe and to take lands from those who were weaker than us.  now we use guns to take things from those that are weaker than us it wont matter if they have a gun or not.   we think the same way as back in the cold war.  we had to have bigger nukes than the other side.  now we think we need bigger guns than the other side.  but what we really need is for people to be willing to work together and take care of each other.  but until we do, we will just keep thinking that killing each other is the answer.


semp

[nrshida]

but what we really need is for people to be willing to work together and take care of each other.

Socialist! 

[sunfan1121]

No, what I agree on is that laws or no laws isnt the answer.  but the willingness to change our society is what will keep us safe.  but not many are really willing to change the way we think and act, and I mean that as a nation.  but that isnt going to happen.  200 years ago we kept guns to keep us safe and to take lands from those who were weaker than us.  now we use guns to take things from those that are weaker than us it wont matter if they have a gun or not.   we think the same way as back in the cold war.  we had to have bigger nukes than the other side.  now we think we need bigger guns than the other side.  but what we really need is for people to be willing to work together and take care of each other.  but until we do, we will just keep thinking that killing each other is the answer.


semp

Most gun owners will never use their firearm in anger or fear, I'm not sure what you're referring to when you say we use guns to take from the weak. Correct me if I'm wrong bud didn't our nuclear deterrents insure that war would never happen? We don't have anything close to 100% gun ownership, if we did it would be a good comparison.

[bmwgs]

because what hardcore drug smuggling organisations want most of all is to call attention to themselves and their operation by attacking ranchers

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/03/03/americas-war-texas-farmers-attack-mexican-border/

Simple Google search. 

Fred

[coombz]

simple fox news link 

[bmwgs]

simple fox news link 

That proved you really don't know what you are commenting about.

 

Fred

[nrshida]

but what we really need is for people to be willing to work together and take care of each other.

Socialist!

Not really Semp, I'm just joking with you, sorry.

Look at medicine for a parallel: surgeons like to operate. We have to be patient as medicinal advances steadily displace their cutting and stitching with a more gentle and holistic approach.

[DaveJ]

simple fox news link  

Right mate, would you only believe it if it was MSNBC, ABC, or CBS?

[coombz]

Right mate, would you only believe it if it was MSNBC, ABC, or CBS?

not really, sadly most of today's media has some kind of spin or bias, some more blatant than others

Fox is even more of a joke 'news' outlet than most though, as everyone with half a brain knows

give me the good old BBC any day ;]

[Widewing]

Ya you can have as many rounds per clip as you want as long as you promise to only shoot non-whites    That'd probably pass muster with most of the redneck brigade

It's not a clip... It's a magazine. The media uses the term "clip" to describe a magazine, but the media is generally ignorant of firearms. Lots of folk without any firearms experience use the term, as a result.

As a rule, a "clip" is used to "charge" or load a magazine...

On the left is an en bloc "clip" that gets loaded into a magazine, specifically for the M1 Garand rifle. On the right is a stripper "clip" used to insert rounds into an internal magazine. This one is for the Soviet SKS rifle.