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Re: Gun control laws do they work ?
« Reply #870 on: September 10, 2012, 11:49:17 PM »
Pot meet Kettle....

so can you quote where I've done that in this (or any) thread or are you just talking more rubbish?

or if you're referring to me as partisan then you're way off the mark, just because i enjoy trolling right wing redneck r tards doesn't mean i am a crazy liberal

I actually think all political organizations and governments are generally as worthless, corrupt and generally ineffectual as each other
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« Reply #871 on: September 11, 2012, 01:01:17 AM »
so can you quote where I've done that in this (or any) thread or are you just talking more rubbish?

or if you're referring to me as partisan then you're way off the mark, just because i enjoy trolling right wing redneck r tards doesn't mean i am a crazy liberal

I actually think all political organizations and governments are generally as worthless, corrupt and generally ineffectual as each other

You used the chart to indicate that the folks at Fox news are idiots and cater to the same. I used two examples of where the "leader of the free world" and his designated coat holder can make ridiculous errors as well, thereby insinuating they are not as bright as one might hope (okay, we all know that the VP is as sharp as cream cheese). Pot vs kettle. Two offsetting examples of generalizing.

At least we agree that governments are the like the dragon eating his own tail; self-consuming beasts. Amoral, if not immoral and completely inefficient at anything beyond wasting resources and the public's trust.
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Re: Gun control laws do they work ?
« Reply #872 on: September 11, 2012, 01:41:25 AM »
How many goverment slaughters or wild animal attacks before you old world types let us colonist be? We beat you twice and bailed you out twice  I think weve earned our guns. And youknow  if someone is going to snap they are going to find a way to get a gun, if you can buy a bag of weed you can buy a gun.
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Re: Gun control laws do they work ?
« Reply #873 on: September 11, 2012, 01:44:39 AM »
You used the chart to indicate that the folks at Fox news are idiots and cater to the same. I used two examples of where the "leader of the free world" and his designated coat holder can make ridiculous errors as well, thereby insinuating they are not as bright as one might hope (okay, we all know that the VP is as sharp as cream cheese). Pot vs kettle. Two offsetting examples of generalizing.


Not really...making an error is one thing, and something we can both admit that all people are prone to from time to time...but that's not really what I was getting at with the Fox graph.

That's a prime example of what I guess is the worst aspect of any biased news outlet (not solely limited to Fox)...presenting information inaccurately to spin the viewer or reader's perception into thinking it means something other than it does.

Computer generated graphs don't get messed up like that by accident :)

You could provide an example of a left wing media outlet doing some similary shady stuff, and that would be a good offsetting example. But we see so much of that already in political discourse these days don't we? "X person/side did this" "But Y person/side did that!" and the mud slinging goes on and on, distracting the voting population from the simple fact that they don't really have any influence at all

At least we agree that governments are the like the dragon eating his own tail; self-consuming beasts. Amoral, if not immoral and completely inefficient at anything beyond wasting resources and the public's trust.

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Re: Gun control laws do they work ?
« Reply #874 on: September 11, 2012, 01:18:59 PM »
Mississippi is a shall issue state as well, along with my state, Kansas.  However, there is still a lengthy application process.  After taking the class, filling out the paperwork, getting the money orders, and getting my finger prints taken, I still had to wait about 60 days to get my license.
60 day's wow . I at the point wondering where mine is . It is almost not worth it to go through the trouble to get them . Legal to carry open .
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« Reply #875 on: September 11, 2012, 01:23:13 PM »
60 day's wow . I at the point wondering where mine is . It is almost not worth it to go through the trouble to get them . Legal to carry open .

Although perfectly legal, it is more hassle than it is worth to open carry. 
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« Reply #876 on: September 11, 2012, 01:25:27 PM »
Why you say that Von ?
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« Reply #877 on: September 11, 2012, 01:26:48 PM »
Why you say that Von ?

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« Reply #878 on: September 11, 2012, 01:28:37 PM »
Carry open and you shall find out. :)

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« Reply #879 on: September 11, 2012, 01:29:42 PM »
Carry open and you shall find out. :)
I do and never had any trouble ? I see what your saying now tho .
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Re: Gun control laws do they work ?
« Reply #880 on: September 11, 2012, 01:31:10 PM »
Gun control itself is a silly idea.

You cannot control an individual and his desires to make someone else dead.  If it's not a gun, it will be a knife, or a rock, or a stick...

Despite our best efforts to make this world a wonderful and safe place, it's not going to happen.  I think we should all try to leave this place better than we found it, but using gun control as a way to stop violence is akin to using a band-aid to close a severed Aorta.  
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« Reply #881 on: September 11, 2012, 01:32:33 PM »
I do and never had any trouble ? I see what your saying now tho .

Go check out youtube just search open carry and youll see ALOT of hassle.
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Re: Gun control laws do they work ?
« Reply #882 on: September 11, 2012, 01:36:21 PM »
Gun control itself is a silly idea.

You cannot control an individual and his desires to make someone else dead.  If it's not a gun, it will be a knife, or a rock, or a stick...

Despite our best efforts to make this world a wonderful and safe place, it's not going to happen.  I think we should all try to leave this place better than we found it, but using gun control as a way to stop violence is akin to using a band-aid to close a severed Aorta.  

I tend to agree with the analogy you used, however I think it is somewhat in error. Gun control is like using the defibrillator on the ambulance attendant who brought the heart attack victim into the hospital. It doesn't work on the real problem but it gives the ones who don't need it an unnecessary jolt and makes their lives unpleasant.
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Re: Gun control laws do they work ?
« Reply #883 on: September 11, 2012, 01:36:59 PM »
Go check out youtube just search open carry and youll see ALOT of hassle.
Yeah , I guess it depends on where you live . Like most around here have or carry a hand gun but there is just no law just game wardens and they don't ask for paper work .
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Re: Gun control laws do they work ?
« Reply #884 on: September 11, 2012, 02:13:45 PM »
Why do you assume that if the fight isn't over in 5 minutes & 10 rounds, that it's not realistic? Our world is becoming more violent every day. We have seen assaults on Banks with full auto AK's with 100's of rounds, multiple clips, flack jackets & helmets, & you still think a similar scenario with "drug dealers at the wrong house" is impossible....or..... :old:

you live in a bank?  criminals don't g to houses to shoot it out with the occupant, unless of course there's a contract on you,  they go for the quick grab and get out fast.



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